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Old 11-07-2005, 05:59 AM
AllIn3High AllIn3High is offline
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Default Re: Food for thought... ;)

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http://groups.google.se/group/rec.gambli...76dd8c77b1f9f23

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You did look at the date of that post, right?
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

I happened to read this this afternoon and I thought it was pertinent to this discussion.

"Many plays are neither right or wrong, but are just different ways to play a hand. These differences in the play of similar hands will keep opponents off balance. A play that looks bad or doesn't work on one hand may generate a mistake from an opponent on another. Players who make their opponents play badly often don't get the credit they deserve. The 'starting-hand policemen' say, "Look what he started with!" There are players who appear to play more hands than they should, but win because they bet their hands well and force their opponents to guess what they are doing."

Barry Greenstein, Ace on the River, page 203.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

"There are players who appear to play fewer hands than they should, but win because they bet their hands well and force their opponents to guess what they are doing."

FYQ
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

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Can someone bring me up to speed?

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Some LAG has run well and has gotten deep into some domes.

Time was folks could blather about Star Wars.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

I don't post here ever because I play NL, but do read a lot of the threads here because there are some great posters. You guys are going crazy over this.

He doesn't play the standard 2p2 style and people are going off the deep end. Accusing him of cheating, chip dumping, collusion, are you kidding?

What exactly is the fascination with this player? 2p2 is not the mecca of the poker world. This forum does not set the standard of what a poker player should do. There is much more to this game than playing tight and relatively unimaginative poker with playing a ton of tables. That style is certainly profitable and it's basically what I do, but the sheer disbelief that people have been showing is shocking.

In all seriousness I don't understand why he has gotten so much attention. Is it really that earth shattering to you guys that someone is bucking the general trend of 2p2? Someone clear this up for me.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

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I don't post here ever because I play NL, but do read a lot of the threads here because there are some great posters. You guys are going crazy over this.

He doesn't play the standard 2p2 style and people are going off the deep end. Accusing him of cheating, chip dumping, collusion, are you kidding?

What exactly is the fascination with this player? 2p2 is not the mecca of the poker world. This forum does not set the standard of what a poker player should do. There is much more to this game than playing tight and relatively unimaginative poker with playing a ton of tables. That style is certainly profitable and it's basically what I do, but the sheer disbelief that people have been showing is shocking.

In all seriousness I don't understand why he has gotten so much attention. Is it really that earth shattering to you guys that someone is bucking the general trend of 2p2? Someone clear this up for me.

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I don't think any respected posters have accused him of cheating or chip dumping.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:59 PM
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I don't post here ever because I play NL, but do read a lot of the threads here because there are some great posters. You guys are going crazy over this.

He doesn't play the standard 2p2 style and people are going off the deep end. Accusing him of cheating, chip dumping, collusion, are you kidding?

What exactly is the fascination with this player? 2p2 is not the mecca of the poker world. This forum does not set the standard of what a poker player should do. There is much more to this game than playing tight and relatively unimaginative poker with playing a ton of tables. That style is certainly profitable and it's basically what I do, but the sheer disbelief that people have been showing is shocking.

In all seriousness I don't understand why he has gotten so much attention. Is it really that earth shattering to you guys that someone is bucking the general trend of 2p2? Someone clear this up for me.

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I don't think any respected posters have accused him of cheating or chip dumping.

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I'm not really up on who's respected and who isn't here, I know who some of the respected posters are and I haven't seen them say that. I realize that the serious posters in the forum don't take that angle seriously.

I just don't understand why there is this disbelief and fascination with this guy by anyone. Is it be beneficial to discuss a player who plays an unorthodox style and is succeeding with it? Of course. To me it doesn't look like that discussion is really happening, it's more along the lines of something frantic.

I haven't read all the posts on him, there are just too many, but why is this such a big deal to everyone? I'm sure the more knowledgable posters here aren't going nuts, but a lot of people are.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

I think it's because he seems to make many losing plays yet the sum adds up to winning. That is, indeed, curious. And empty out your PMs.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:09 PM
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I think it's because he seems to make many losing plays yet the sum adds up to winning. That is, indeed, curious. And empty out your PMs.

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pms empty. god that is annoying.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: What\'s With This DERB?

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I don't post here ever because I play NL, but do read a lot of the threads here because there are some great posters. You guys are going crazy over this.

He doesn't play the standard 2p2 style and people are going off the deep end. Accusing him of cheating, chip dumping, collusion, are you kidding?

What exactly is the fascination with this player? 2p2 is not the mecca of the poker world. This forum does not set the standard of what a poker player should do. There is much more to this game than playing tight and relatively unimaginative poker with playing a ton of tables. That style is certainly profitable and it's basically what I do, but the sheer disbelief that people have been showing is shocking.

In all seriousness I don't understand why he has gotten so much attention. Is it really that earth shattering to you guys that someone is bucking the general trend of 2p2? Someone clear this up for me.

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Bingo # 2.
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