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Old 08-01-2005, 06:46 AM
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You are playing headsup holdem and are allin preflop for 1000 chips. Your opponent is also very generous and allows to choose his exact two hole cards and the 3 cards on the flop. You don't get to see your own cards before doing this. What hand and flop should you choose?

Forgive me if this is a well known problem of some sort.
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:57 AM
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i'm just gonna guess:

his cards: 32 neither diamonds
flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:15 AM
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Note that I don't know the answer yet but will in a day or two...
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:38 AM
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i'm just gonna guess:

his cards: 32 neither diamonds
flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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I'd go with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Best possible hand he can make is runners for trip 2s, trip 3s.

Under the other post a split for a straight or flush is possible.
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: brain teaser someone gave me...

I'm too tired to put much thought into this.

But what about something along the lines of:

Flop:
K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He holds:
2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

The best he can do is hit a 2 or 3 or play the board.
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:50 AM
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I think his odds are pretty damn good in this one.. There are tons of other possible flops without leaving him drawing 6 outs to a full house.

Unpaired, rainbow board, K-10-7 with a 2-3. Can't imagine anything worse.
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:52 AM
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i'm just gonna guess:

his cards: 32 neither diamonds
flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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the reason i chose this, is your opponenet will always have at least 4 outs for a pair, but i think if he hits a non-diamond 2 or 3 my board gives you the best chance to make a pair or better
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:55 AM
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Flop:
K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He holds:
2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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PokerStove says he has an equity of 25.4302%. It's too easy for 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to tie when the board is a full house, and if the turn gives 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] a pair, hands that are behind do not have many outs.
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:59 AM
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his cards: 32 neither diamonds
flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Good guess. PokerStove says his equity is 11.0735%, about .9% lower than with a 987 board.
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:01 AM
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I'd go with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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15.0662%.
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