Bad push?

Olback · #1 07-22-2005, 04:06 AM

Eurobet $33 sng

I pushed this hand but in hindsight figured it might have been a bad idea. SB was loose and would have raised with an ace preflop and could complete with any 2. UTG was weak and had been limping alot but never with any ace before.

I pushed figuring that even if they had an ace or an eight i had outs. Was this a reasonable move?

#Game No : 2402608177
***** Hand History for Game 2402608177 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14141971 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, July 21, 23:29:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 11279 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: src3uab ( $1907 )
Seat 3: McCrary ( $2070 )
Seat 4: kzmyhryaz ( $1568 )
Seat 6: Olback1 ( $745 )
Seat 8: ottotot ( $940 )
Seat 10: traderbetts ( $770 )
Trny:14141971 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback1 [ Tc 5c ]
ottotot calls [100].
traderbetts folds.
src3uab folds.
McCrary folds.
kzmyhryaz calls [50].
Olback1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 8s, Ac ]
kzmyhryaz checks.
Olback1 is all-In [645]
ottotot calls [645].
kzmyhryaz raises [1290].
ottotot is all-In [195]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
kzmyhryaz shows [ Qc, 8d ] a full house, Eights full of aces.
Olback1 shows [ Tc, 5c ] two pairs, aces and eights.
ottotot shows [ As, 3d ] a full house, Aces full of eights.
kzmyhryaz wins 450 chips from side pot #2 with a full house, Eights full of aces.
ottotot wins 390 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of eights.
ottotot wins 2235 chips from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of eights.
Olback1 finished in sixth place.
Olback1 has left the table.
Game #2402611846 starts.

Nottom · #2 07-22-2005, 04:12 AM

Meh given your stack and the pot, its probably fine.

Even if you knew their hands you are almost getting the odds to call.

645 to win 2235 is not too far off from the 3-1 you need.

Board: 8c Ac 8s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 67.5526 % [ 00.68 00.00 ] { Qc8d }
Hand 2: 23.4773 % [ 00.23 00.00 ] { Tc5c }
Hand 3: 08.9701 % [ 00.09 00.00 ] { As3d }

HesseJam · #3 07-22-2005, 04:41 AM

That 33s seems to be a trigger happy place. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

HesseJam · #4 07-22-2005, 04:43 AM

So, given the fact that he did not know that both had hit the flop, it was a good push, right?

tigerite · #5 07-22-2005, 04:46 AM

Seems alright, but personally I like push preflop dependent on reads - the Q8o guy has to be some kind of donk and the A3o so both must be very loose, and probably limping loads. But this is why you need reads. Anyway, in these situations with loose passive players, a PVS is pretty effective.

Olback · #6 07-22-2005, 04:46 AM

Thats what i want to know? :-)

I knew i had outs even if someone had something and obviously the situation i came across was pretty bad. But i am curious if it is too dangerous to push there with the ace on the board.

Nottom · #7 07-22-2005, 04:49 AM

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Thats what i want to know? :-)

I knew i had outs even if someone had something and obviously the situation i came across was pretty bad. But i am curious if it is too dangerous to push there with the ace on the board.

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I bet into Ace high flops with nothing all the time from the BB when there is a limper and the SB checks the flop. I would guess I take it down 75% of the time or more.