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Old 05-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

Gary Sheffield, does he make the hall of fame?

36 yrs old and has 421 homers already.

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Old 05-14-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

I think that homeruns hit during this time period will be discounted. This will hurt him. BBWAA Electors certainly pay attention to personality. It may cost Sheffield that he was such a huge tool in Milwaukee.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

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I think that homeruns hit during this time period will be discounted. This will hurt him. BBWAA Electors certainly pay attention to personality. It may cost Sheffield that he was such a huge tool in Milwaukee.

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Has this changed?
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

Sheffield is a butcher in right which has hurt his value a lot the past 6 or so years. It's the same with Manny.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

Should Sheff make the hall? It's close, but no. Seven time All Star, top 10 in MVP voting five times, top 5 three times. He has one Triple Crown point (leading the league in a TC category) over his career, which is a severe strike against him. It doesn't get any better if you give credit for top five finishes -- Sheffield would then have a mere seven points.

For context, Juan Gonazalez -- a year younger and about as many HRs -- has fewer all star games (3) but two MVPs (and wasn't an All Star during his 1986 MVP year). JuanGone also came in the top 5 two other times and one top 10 finish. His Triple Crown points are 3 and 10, depending on how you count it.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

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Sheffield is a butcher in right which has hurt his value a lot the past 6 or so years. It's the same with Manny.

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Sheffield is beter than Manny in the field. Hell, anyone is better than Manny. But both make the Hall, I suspect. Sheff is a perennial MVP candidate, Manny one of the best hitters of his generation.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

Sheff's range in right isn't great, but he's got a great arm. Plus he hits for better average than a lot of sluggers.

Even so, I doubt he'll get into the Hall -- especially since he's tangentially involved in the steriods controversy. That said, if he has a couple more years like the last two, he might have a shot.
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:01 PM
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Even so, I doubt he'll get into the Hall -- especially since he's tangentially involved in the steriods controversy.

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VERY tangentially. Really, I think that might be overlooked. I just looked at his carreer and it looks like you're right, he probably needs another 2 season like the last 2. But that's not out of the question, and it looks like this seaosn should be on par with last year.

Thing about Sheffield is that while he's brash and cocky, the guy backs it up with both numbers and heart. He does not miss games. Even last year when his should was fuct, he was talking about retiring after the season but refused to take a cortisone shot b/c he didn't want to miss games.
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Gary Sheffield, future HOF\'er?

Thing about Sheffield is that while he's brash and cocky, the guy backs it up with both numbers and heart.

Yeah, kinda like how he made the following comment after game three of the 2004 ALCS before going 1-for-17 for the rest off the series.

"They're a walking disaster. They act like they're tough, how they care so much about winning, but it's all a front. They're just a bunch of characters."
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:11 PM
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If he gets to 500, then he is a lock.
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