Which 2 starting cards cost you the most $?

[Octopus]

In full games, my biggest losers are 44, 98s and 75s.

In 6-max games (a much smaller sample), my biggest losers are JJ, ATs, and A8s.

[Octopus]

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that's not super tight. super tight is 12 or 13. 16 is average

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OK, not super tight, but I bet your's is at least a couple points higher.

[Lurshy]

I don't know about sthief, but my vpip is 19.6%, trending down.

Would you change how you are playing 44 or the other hands?

Thanks,

Lurshy

[BottlesOf]

I don't understand how KTo is overrated. Who actually thinks it's any good?

[private joker]

My biggest net loss is from 33, but I only have 17k hands and gotten 33 only 80 times. So most of my losses from it are on like 2 or 3 hands where I flopped a set, got major action, and then got rivered by flush/straight.

After that...

QTo (VPIP is only 23% and going down, and I hate this hand)
A5o
A6o (VPIPs for these are 6-7%, usually SB completions)

[dfscott]

Strangely, my biggest losers are all suited (standard sample size disclaimer applies -- only 50K hands).

Q9s
T9s
J8s

I haven't looked in detail yet, but I imagine that this is due to playing them without enough opponents and cases where I'm hitting a junky pair and hanging on to it too long.

BTW, I was prepared to dismiss this excercise with the "sample-size argument," but I do think I learned something here.

Edit: VP$IP = 17%

[kevyk]

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SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!!!!!! 25,000 hands is nothing for this kind of analysis. 250,000 hands is insufficient for this kind of analysis.



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Are you suggesting that a person not review their results until they have >250K hands in the database? Then why bother to have the tool at all. I think not.

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Sorry Lurshy, but he's right. If your sample size is 25,000 hands, assuming that you draw AK 1.5% of the time (a reasonable approximation), then you only had data on 375 AK hands. Not enough to draw long-term conclusions about AK's profitability. You certainly can spot trends as the data filters in, but refrain from drawing any really unusual conclusions (i.e. AK loses money) until you have a proper sample.

You can also use PokerTracker for other things, as most of the statistics that it collects converge much faster.

[Khern]

Hmmm..., my VP$IP for QTo is <2%. I will attempt a steal from the Button or sb, and I'm not even sure that's good in a raked game. Maybe if the game's right I could call in LP under certain conditions...

I have been feeling like I'm playing a little too tight. VP$IP = 15.5%. I'm not sure exactly where I should loosen up though. Big cards in LP? Suited Connectors/pairs earlier in looser/passive games? Right now, I think I'll stay at 15.5% though until I work some other potential problems out.

-John

[mistrpug]

I'll tell you what. When I started off, I was playing suited connectors way too much and my 3 most losing hands were T9s, 98s, and 87s. That caused me to change my play of hands like that significantly (like not playing them in EP or MP so much). That was after about 10k hands. I'm glad I didn't wait until I had a few hundred thousand hands to use that information to improve my game.

[DMBFan23]

that's why this is fun, if we all had sample sizes all our posts would look something like

72o
83o
32o