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Old 12-15-2005, 03:55 AM
aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline
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Default Re: Two hands (Stars 45k)

Any of you guys that posted about the final decision on hand 1 feel inclined to post the ranges you used in pokerstove?
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:01 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Am I the only person here who can't click call fast enough on hand #2? That's not a fold. I can't believe it's even close.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:12 AM
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Am I the only person here who can't click call fast enough on hand #2? That's not a fold. I can't believe it's even close.

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I didn't quite say it that matter-of-factly, but yeah, that is what I was getting at.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:19 AM
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ZBTHorton,

Three way action is pretty sexy. I think even with possible higher flush draws and redraws you've got great equity.

Aaron
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:26 AM
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If my numbers are right, you have to call 50k in hand 2 into a pot of 98,6k.

I think it's marginally a gamble you should take. Ran some number through pokerstove with a variety of ranges because it's hard to nail down the villains holdings here.
But the button has a pretty wide range I think, MP1 probably has a set or a straight. I'd be interested to see the results.

Interesting hand in any case.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:39 AM
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MP1 probably has a set or a straight.

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You think he was second into the pot preflop with 5 2?

A set maybe, but almost assuredly not a straight. I think your range for him is way too narrow.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:04 AM
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hand 1:

i'm getting 2.5:1 so i need like 7 outs to break even.
gutshot - 4 outs
backdoor flush - 1.5 outs
7's and 8's - i think they're good 50% or more. so 3 outs.

8.5 outs


might be stretching, but i think it looks ok.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:45 AM
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No reads because i'm a doofus that doesn't pay much attention

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How I love this sentence. All the time we get this "Just got moved to the table" or "Villain was moved to the table three hands ago" or "blah blah blah" when the fact is, that at lot of us four table MTT's, surf pr0n and post on 2+2 and consequently doesn't have a clue as to whether Villain is the Uber Rock of the Universe or Gus Hansens big brother. Kudos

Hand 1: Minraise = 60% strong hand, 20% medium hand, "what do you got?" and 20% semi-bluff (i.e. a bluff with only half the bet it should be, hence "semi"). You're behind to that range. Fold

Hand 2: That's a call. You get appr. 2:1 and that's enough me feels
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:58 AM
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hand 1:

i'm getting 2.5:1 so i need like 7 outs to break even.
gutshot - 4 outs
backdoor flush - 1.5 outs
7's and 8's - i think they're good 50% or more. so 3 outs.

8.5 outs


might be stretching, but i think it looks ok.

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Not if you hit a 7 or 8 and he actually has top pair. You will loose even more money.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:03 AM
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i only counted the 7's and 8's as half outs.. so i already accounnted for when the 7's or 8's won't be good to his pair of 9s or >.
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