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Old 11-23-2005, 01:33 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

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durron, I respect your opinion here so please explain why the way he played it is so bad because I don't understand.

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Sets are like gold. There is no point in trying to extract value from jack high hands, you aren't getting much no matter what you do. The idea is to win as much as possible from hands that have showdown value, or draws. You can't do that by waiting until the river in a 60 chip pot.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

So would you slow play the flop and bet the turn or just bet the flop?
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

i bet the flop here, throw in a small bet, plenty of overcards will come along. definetly bet the turn.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

Bet the flop because there are 4 people in the hand and someone will come along with garbage for "cheap". Plenty of people limp PP and Ax pre-flop and will have an overpair/top pair/middle pair they like (not to mention overcards).

Bet the turn because no one's buying you're on trip 4s, and if you're lucky enough to have hit someone with something like A4 you'll get all kinds of action. Plus, you've got the bottom boat on a paired board and you don't want anyone getting to their two-outer for free.

Call the river because the doofus with 76 and the idiot slow-playing his trip 4s on the turn both just drew out on you, and it's gonna suck to get bluff-raised off the best hand if no one has a better boat.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

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So would you slow play the flop and bet the turn or just bet the flop?

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Bet the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 (t1570)
CO (t1335)
Button (t2890)
SB (t1505)
Hero (t1235)
UTG (t3295)
MP1 (t1670)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t200) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, UTG calls t100, CO folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t400) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1350</font>, Hero calls t835 (All-In).

River: (t2835) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2835

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 7s 6s (full house, twos full of sixes).
Hero has Qs 2c (four of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins t2570. UTG wins t265. </font>
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

Never mind. I'm an idiot, for some reason I thought he was up against one other player. Sorry for wasting your time.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

Are you expecting people to call my bets with AT and KJ, thinking I'm on a bluff? Any pair would have bet, any 7 would have bet. I'm not getting squat from this hand.

Do I min bet hoping someone sees it as weak and tries to bluff-raise me? I think a ridiculous over-bet might extract more value.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: ($20) Slow played this set of deuces.

Don't you know you're supposed to river the quads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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