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Old 11-13-2005, 04:26 AM
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Default By All Means Shed Some Light on the Situation

How does France go about straigtening out their immagration policy? And if the economic system in France does not contribute to the situation, why is the unemployment rate so high in France overall and much higher among young Muslim males 25 or less? I've read that the unemployment rate for Muslim males 25 or less is around 40%. If true that seems like a problem.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:26 PM
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How does France go about straigtening out their immagration policy? And if the economic system in France does not contribute to the situation, why is the unemployment rate so high in France overall and much higher among young Muslim males 25 or less? I've read that the unemployment rate for Muslim males 25 or less is around 40%.

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France's economic policies are not radically different from the rest of Europe's. (And bear in mind that the current government is right wing! The opposition are the Socialists.)

The problem is that the larger part of the immigrants lack the necessary education and qualifications for decently paying jobs, leaving them with mostly manual and non-specialized jobs (which, for the most part, pay basic wages or below) to choose from. And usually there is no problem filling those jobs in view of the many candidates for them.

A huge and relatively sudden influx of young, non-specialized and relatively uneducated young men in any society would cause problems, if not overwhelm it.
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: Paris riots spread, shaking French government

i was just in paris for over four days...didnt see so much as a loud verbal altercation

these things are taking place in supburbs far from paris
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Paris riots spread, shaking French government

We're letting out our murderers, rapists, and other violent criminals earlier so we can throw someone in jail for 25 years for having a pot seed in their car ashtray.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default French TV boss admits censoring riot coverage

French TV boss admits censoring riot coverage

Claire Cozens in Amsterdam
Thursday November 10, 2005

One of France's leading TV news executives has admitted censoring his coverage of the riots in the country for fear of encouraging support for far-right politicians.

"Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television," Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today.

...he admitted his decision was partly motivated by a desire to avoid encouraging the resurgence of extreme rightwing views in France. http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1639538,00.html



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Le Pen says these riots are only the start of problems he has predicted for a long time.

The French have been signing up for his party en masse!





"France is in a bad state, much worse than it seems. Our country is on the edge of a decline that could rapidly drive it to its disappearance. the French people, who are brainwashed by the media, don’t even know it, although many of them have a fear about it.

"To avoid terrible hardship, the country must react as soon as possible. The truth must help this nation to rediscover and set off again in the 21st century on the glorious route which it had followed for centuries.
Without hate, but without fear, without remorse and without repentance, each of us must now act without building castles in the sky, while keeping our eyes fixed on the end of the furrow like our ancestors in order to do what needs to be done. When the hour of the battle arrives, you close ranks and go to battle, and as Joan of Arc said: 'God gives victory.'"
Jean-Marie Le Pen

With a 24-hour ban on rallies in Paris due to be lifted today, Mr. Le Pen, 77, has summoned "legitimately worried and fed-up French people" to assemble in Palais Royal square in the city center tomorrow evening.
Marine Le Pen, his 37-year-old youngest daughter and political heir, told the London Sunday Telegraph that her father, one of France's longest-serving politicians, had been vindicated.
"The Front National predicted and warned this violence would happen 20 years ago. It has been political madness for 30 years since we allowed immigrants to come here as cheap labor at the behest of French bosses," said Miss Le Pen, a mother of three, lawyer and member of the European Parliament.
"Five percent of those here legally have an employment contract, which means 95 percent are living at cost to the public purse. It is ruining our health system, our social security system and aggravating unemployment and social problems," she said.

http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...1939-6201r.htm
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:48 AM
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Default Chicken or egg

What the French TV producer did should cost him his job. He effectiveý censored what happened, with the intent of influencing political developments. totally unnacceptable.

But here is an interesting question posed by another TV exec :

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"Do we send teams of journalists because cars are burning, or are the cars burning because we sent teams of journalists?" asked Patrick Lecocq, editor-in-chief of France 2.

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Good question.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
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I think the blame has to lie on those who initiated the news story. If French reporters had asked people to burn cars for them or do something crazy for the French evening news, certainly they would be to blame. But it was the rioters who started the mess.

It is true that perhaps news coverage may instigate more action, but that would just make the rioters doubly guilty of taking advantage of the situation. Outright cencorship is clearly not the answer though.

And as mentioned, the head of a media source that is outright politically motivated does not deserve any special media priveleges.
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