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Old 12-09-2005, 11:47 AM
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Would any anti-war folk like to talk a little bit about what they feel should or should not be done, from both a US and then a UN perspective, in regards to Iran amidst its apparant nuclear ambitions coupled with its call for the elimination of another state? If you aren't caught up, here are some links:


Iran Moves Closer to Enriched Uranium

Iran Missile Deal

Iran considered "very dangerous"

World Losing Patience

Holocaust denial

"Israel Must Be Wiped Off the Map"
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:54 AM
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Why don't you get the ball rolling...what do you think the US should do to Iran?
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:12 PM
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For starters, how about telling them if they don't cut the crap, they will lose ALL of their nuclear R&D facilities (and any suspected sites as well).

If we have to follow through on this, and if we are met with military resistance, they should lose their largest military bases as well.

In other words--we should tell them cut the crap--or ELSE. Plain and simple.

Negotiations haven't worked, and have done nothing but buy them time. They are clearly and completely intransigent and fully intend to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran's hardline government is telling it like it is--the way they see it--to the world. It's high time we speak as plainly to the Iranian government.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:24 PM
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Didn't Israel send them a "message" a few years back? I wouldn't be surprised to see them adding a "p.s." to it.

With our problems in Iraq, I don't expect us to do anything except arm-twisting in the UN. Probably a lot of background haggling/dealing in our "allies" capitols. But anything more, not agreed on in the UN, I think won't happen.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:34 PM
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Plain and simple.

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M6, the common refute of that line of thinking goes something like:

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The scene is complex. No complex thing can be cast in terms of black and white. That's what the right does so well -- sees everything as good and evil, black and white. That's why the airwaves are filled with conservative commentators. They can pound their fists and act like the world is unambiguous. The trap the left is falling into is seeing things in black and white. Don't buy it.


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I am unfortunately stuck in the trap of believing that the Iranian government and its intentions are "evil" and that "evil" needs to be met with "good". Ambiguous at first, yes, but then that at least serves as the platform for the construction of a strategy. Because clearly if the Iranian government was "good" then the strategy from its conception would have to be entirely different.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:49 PM
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Hi Riddick,

I just don't see a compelling reason to allow our sworn mortal enemies (the Iranian government) to arm in such a manner that they could cause us or our allies the gravest of harm. If that means kicking their heads in, militarily speaking, well that's just a damn shame.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:57 PM
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IMHO, not that much. containment, economic/diplomatic sanctions, covertly fermenting/encouraging democratic insurgency, etc.

Also any bunker-busting missile type technology that might be helpful in destroying buried nuclear weapon technology should be on sale or given to our closest and most trusted allies. this one seems pretty obvious though.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:49 AM
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Support a coup by pro western elements within Iran's military.

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Old 12-10-2005, 12:58 AM
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Support a coup by pro western elements within Iran's military.

Stu

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Now there's a fine idea.

If need be, we might be able to lend them a hand, too--like blowing the hell out of their next session of Parliament, where all the "Death To America!" mullah-lawmakers will be gathered in one place.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:03 PM
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Support a coup by pro western elements within Iran's military.

Stu

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yeah because that worked out so well the last time we did it.
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