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Old 11-16-2005, 11:28 AM
MaxPowerPoker MaxPowerPoker is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

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Why is it that believers (in general) seem completely unperturbed by the notion that many, many millions of good, ethical, loving people will go to hell simply because of a lack of faith in Christ/God?

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Your premise is faulty. God is just. "Good, ethical, loving people" do not go to hell. In fact no one is good, ethical and loving according to Scripture.

(Rom 3:10) as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;
(Rom 3:11) no one understands; no one seeks for God.
(Rom 3:12) All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."

(Rom 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,




Jesus Christ is the only truly good and loving man who ever existed. When we repent of our sin and put our faith in Christ, his righteousness is reckoned to our account. We are counted righteous only then.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:36 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

Ah, the cult of Saul of Tarsus.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

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Why is it that believers (in general) seem completely unperturbed by the notion that many, many millions of good, ethical, loving people will go to hell simply because of a lack of faith in Christ/God?

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Your premise is faulty. God is just. "Good, ethical, loving people" do not go to hell. In fact no one is good, ethical and loving according to Scripture.

(Rom 3:10) as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;
(Rom 3:11) no one understands; no one seeks for God.
(Rom 3:12) All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."

(Rom 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,




Jesus Christ is the only truly good and loving man who ever existed. When we repent of our sin and put our faith in Christ, his righteousness is reckoned to our account. We are counted righteous only then.

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I have to say, by that account I guess it makes some sense. We are all total shite in the Lord's eyes, except for Jesus. Figures God favors his only son much like a baseball coach playing favorites with his little league progeny.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:44 AM
MaxPowerPoker MaxPowerPoker is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

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Figures God favors his only son much like a baseball coach playing favorites with his little league progeny.

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Not the best analogy for a couple of reasons. Unlike the son of a baseball coach, the son of God truly merits the favor of his father. Also, those who believe in the son are adopted by the father and share in his inheritance.
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

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Jesus Christ is the only truly good and loving man who ever existed. When we repent of our sin and put our faith in Christ, his righteousness is reckoned to our account. We are counted righteous only then.

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I know many good and loving people, some of them in positions of power. The level of there compassion and influence is of course no where near that of where the the Almighty's is supposed to be. Just the same, the wise, compassionate, understanding leaders that I know would never sentence a man to eternal pain and suffering for simply not being able (notice I'm declining to use any form of the word choice) to believe in ghosts.

I'm aware that the my last word trivializes the faith but I'm attempting to make a point, my apologies to anyone who is offended by it.
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t Have a Problem with a Good Person Going to Hell

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Jesus Christ is the only truly good and loving man who ever existed. When we repent of our sin and put our faith in Christ, his righteousness is reckoned to our account. We are counted righteous only then.

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I know many good and loving people, some of them in positions of power. The level of there compassion and influence is of course no where near that of where the the Almighty's is supposed to be. Just the same, the wise, compassionate, understanding leaders that I know would never sentence a man to eternal pain and suffering for simply not being able (notice I'm declining to use any form of the word choice) to believe in ghosts.

I'm aware that the my last word trivializes the faith but I'm attempting to make a point, my apologies to anyone who is offended by it.

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Well the point of believers, apparently, is that none of these people that you or I consider "good" are actually good. They all fall short of the true goodness embodied by Christ. The fact that he had perfect genetics isn't his fault or ours but we'd better accept him into our hearts in order to gain salvation for our "sins."
The fact that none of us have ever MET this perfect human is beside the point. Just accept that we suck and need this person's (whom we've never met)forgiveness.
I guess I better prepare myself for eternal damnation (sweat forming on brow).
Needless to say, I'm not too worried about it. I'm more worried about the prospect of eternal nothingness but whatever.

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