TiltieMcTilterson creates a crazy-game-of-pokah (LONG) 5/10 6max

AEKDBet · #1 09-21-2005, 03:50 PM

So there's a big tilter at the table, and it has obviously changed the entire game. His stats for the session are
PF 36.8%
VPIP 61.25%

A few (3) examples of McTilt's play first.....

UTG ($951)
Hero ($990)
CO ($3174.25)
Button ($843)
SB ($1947)
McTilt ($530.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, Hero calls $10, CO raises to $40, Button calls $40, 1 fold, McTilt raises to $215, Hero folds, CO folds, Button calls $185.

Flop: ($505) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
McTilt calls $305.50 (All-In), Button calls $305.50.

Turn: ($1116) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1116) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1116

McTilt has 8d 5d (two pair, eights and twos).
Button has 7d 7h (two pair, sevens and twos).
Outcome: McTilt wins $1116.

This was the first time we got to see him showdown after tilting. Everyone buckles up and begins salivating.

UTG ($918)
Hero ($1120.25)
Button ($3985.75)
SB ($728)
McTilt ($1122.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
3 folds, SB (poster) completes, McTilt calls $1112.50 (All-In), SB completes $718 (All-In).

Flop: ($1850.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($1850.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1850.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $1850.50

SB has 8c 8d (one pair, eights).
McTilt has 8h Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins $1446. McTilt wins $389.50.

UTG ($921.50)
Hero ($1104.25)
Button ($4050.25)
SB ($990)
McTilt ($1068)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
3 folds, SB (poster) raises to $25, McTilt calls $20.

Flop: ($60) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $35, McTilt raises to $90, SB calls $55.

Turn: ($240) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, McTilt bets $250, SB calls $870 (All-In), McTilt calls $620.

River: ($1980) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1980

SB has 9c Tc (two pair, tens and fours).
McTilt has Ad 5d (one pair, fours).
Outcome: SB wins $1980.
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Onto the hands

You know that....
-he will raise almost any limped pot from the blinds to 55-100 a large percentage of the time(~65%)
-he will do god knows what after the flop, although most of his chip spewing is done PF.
The only thing certain is that he will lead at flop if he raises it.

How do you choose to play these hands, in these spots (considering position / other opponents / stack sizes)???
Preflop stuff
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Hand 1
BB ($997)
Hero ($974)
MP ($1098.25)
CO ($2259)
Button (McTilt)/ ($1390.50)
SB ($999)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero...

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Hand 2
SB ($280)
Hero ($2016.50)
UTG ($2814.75)
MP ($307.78)
CO ($2353.75)
Button (McTilt)/ ($806.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
3 folds, Button (McTilt)/ raises to $45, 1 fold, Hero....

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Hand 3
UTG ($290)
Hero ($990)
CO ($2995.25)
Button ($656.75)
SB ($2509.25)
BB (McTilt)/ ($1129.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG raises to $35, Hero calls $35, CO calls $35, 2 folds, BB (McTilt)/ raises to $290, UTG calls $255 (All-In), Hero...

Postflop stuff
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Hand 4
CO ($985)
Hero ($989.25)
SB ($3947.25)
BB ($2396)
UTG (McTilt)/ ($1230.50)
MP ($2622.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG (McTilt)/ raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero calls $30, SB (poster) calls $25, BB calls $20.

Flop: ($120) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, McTilt checks, Hero...

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Hand 5
Button ($577)
Hero ($1062)
BB ($3020.25)
UTG ($648)
MP ($2519.25)
CO (McTilt)/ ($930)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
2 folds, CO (McTilt)/ raises to $60, Hero (poster) calls $55, 1 fold.

Flop: ($130) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, McTilt checks.

Turn: ($130) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero...

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Hand 6
UTG ($300)
Hero ($1853.50)
CO ($2814.75)
Button ($691.50)
SB ($2373.75)
BB (McTilt)/ ($961.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $10. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG (poster) checks, Hero calls $10, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB (McTilt)/ raises to $55, 1 fold, Hero calls $55, SB folds.

Flop: ($150) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
McTilt bets $80, Hero...

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Hand 3 contd.
UTG ($290)
Hero ($990)
CO ($2995.25)
Button ($656.75)
SB ($2509.25)
BB (McTilt)/ ($1129.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG raises to $35, Hero calls $35, CO calls $35, 2 folds, BB (McTilt)/ raises to $290, UTG calls $255 (All-In), Hero calls $265, CO folds.

Flop: ($930) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
McTilt checks, Hero...

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Hand 7
Hero ($1813)
BB ($2791.25)
UTG ($516.75)
MP ($2492.75)
Button (McTilt)/ ($1030)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
2 folds, Button (McTilt)/ raises to $75, Hero (poster) calls $70, 1 fold.

Flop: ($160) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, McTilt checks ( I had been coming over the top of him a ton, very unusual he didn't bet here).

Turn: ($160) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...

AZK · #2 09-21-2005, 04:05 PM

Hand 1: I probably go for a limp reraise if he raises to 40 and gets a bunch of callers, or I could see calling, you are hitting to the nuts, I could also see raising, hoping he reraises and moving in. You just have to realize that AJs is the nuts against someone lik this.

Hand 2 I call, and play poker, I would probably be willing to stack off on an Axxr board or even Jxxr given the history.

Hand 3 Reraise
Hand 4 I bet 90 and shut down if anyone else calls, try and get to a cheap showdown if he calls.
Hand 5: check/fold
Hand 6: check/fold
Hand 3 cont: check
Hand 7: pot.

The games are great when people play like this, because everyone is trying to get in on the action, you can play TPTK against a guy like this for your stack until he cools down just dont get trapped by everyone else. Most people start lagging it up and play like crazy, go with any pair, etc, DONT DO THIS. You will spew chips just like everyone else. The right play is tightening up preflop on all those nice implied odds hands and otherwise staying aggressive. With mediocre hands, I'm more likely to check/call to snap off bluffs, i.e. KK on a QQ6 or whatever board.

AEKDBet · #3 09-22-2005, 07:51 PM

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Hand 1: I probably go for a limp reraise if he raises to 40 and gets a bunch of callers, or I could see calling, you are hitting to the nuts, I could also see raising, hoping he reraises and moving in. You just have to realize that AJs is the nuts against someone lik this.

Hand 2 I call, and play poker, I would probably be willing to stack off on an Axxr board or even Jxxr given the history.

Hand 3 Reraise
Hand 4 I bet 90 and shut down if anyone else calls, try and get to a cheap showdown if he calls.
Hand 5: check/fold
Hand 6: check/fold
Hand 3 cont: check
Hand 7: pot.

The games are great when people play like this, because everyone is trying to get in on the action, you can play TPTK against a guy like this for your stack until he cools down just dont get trapped by everyone else. Most people start lagging it up and play like crazy, go with any pair, etc, DONT DO THIS. You will spew chips just like everyone else. The right play is tightening up preflop on all those nice implied odds hands and otherwise staying aggressive. With mediocre hands, I'm more likely to check/call to snap off bluffs, i.e. KK on a QQ6 or whatever board.

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Hand 4 (A9s) I bet 80, mctilt chk raised to 225 and i folded.

Hand 6 (A2) I pushed.

Hand 7 (QJs) I pot'd he let the timer go and folded.

BobboFitos · #4 09-21-2005, 04:25 PM

cool post because you really demonstrate how he's tilting.

Preflop stuff:

I agree with what azk says

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: I probably go for a limp reraise if he raises to 40 and gets a bunch of callers, or I could see calling, you are hitting to the nuts, I could also see raising, hoping he reraises and moving in. You just have to realize that AJs is the nuts against someone lik this.

Hand 2 I call, and play poker, I would probably be willing to stack off on an Axxr board or even Jxxr given the history.

Hand 3 Reraise

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Hand 3 is pretty vital to reraise, and I'd probably do a rare/donk mini one to "isolate." He's crazy, he wont see through it.

Hand 4 I'd pot it

Hand 5 I'd fold pf

When you checked the flop, did you plan on calling raising or folding?

Hand 6 ask says: [ QUOTE ]
Hand 6: check/fold

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I dont agree.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 2, A. UTG posts a blind of $10. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG (poster) checks, Hero calls $10, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB (McTilt)/ raises to $55, 1 fold, Hero calls $55, SB folds.

Flop: ($150) 5, 4, 2 (3 players)
McTilt bets $80, Hero...

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On this type of board I like peeling one off. You have a guy behind you, true, but it's a half pot bet where you COULD have the best hand, and if not, 10ish outs + picking up a 4flush. He's more of a tilter pf, so postflop it's easy to respect the 2nd barrell. I like calling and continuing if improved and otherwise gettin gto showdown without expending more money if not.

KK hand given you JUST called, this board you check and hope he picks up something to call a turn bet. Obviously if he has trips you dug your own grave but c'est la vie. The plan for the hand is make most vs bluffs and hands which could make a pair, not to limit losses.

QJs hand I agree with AZK too

#5 09-21-2005, 05:25 PM

I'm mostly in agreement with AZK and Bobbo. Here's where I'd play differently:

Hand 2: Large re-raise. You have McTilt isolated and you should be reasonably confident your AJ is best. OOP, though, you want to set a high price for Tiltie to see the flop.

Hand 4: Check. There were two players acting before McTilt. Either one of them could be looking for a check raise. An alternative is to bet half the pot to see where you are and fold if the check-raise comes back at you. I don't think risking more than that is justified here.

Hand 6: I'd probably call, but I'm not too sure about this one. Folding seems reasonable, too.

Hand 3 cont. Bet about $350. A tilting player won't be able to resist a bet of less than half the pot. He'll probably call, and there's a good chance he'll sense weakness and re-raise you all-in. Sure, he'd do the same thing with the Q, but there's no reason to suspect that here. I guess checking and hoping he bets the turn would probably work, too.

Good post by the way. Exploiting tilters effectively is an important skill. As AZK warns, a lot of players will loosen up to much. You need to ensure you don't start spewing your chips with a medium pair unless you have Tiltie isolated.

captZEEbo1 · #6 09-21-2005, 09:30 PM

where is tl;dr when you need him?