99 OE straight draw vs ???

[J_B]

What hands could you possible put MP2 on here? I only have 17 hands worth of him in PT, so I really know nothing about him. Also, hows my action up to the river?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero ???

[wax311]

I like the flop bet, betting the turn is a must, and I think 3-betting the river is a must. You only loose to Q9 here, which is unlikely 1) because you have two of those 9s and 2) because he cold-called two bets preflop. I have no idea what hand he'd have - he might have been slowplaying a set or two pair or something, you never know. The important thing is to realize you have the 2nd nuts and that it's very unlikely you're beat.

[mlb3zr]

Maybe slowplaying a set of 8's (he'd probably have reraised preflop w. JJ or TT) or two pair w. JTs. Either is a horrible and dangerous play for him given the coordination of the board. I guess he's on A9s and you split.

[J_B]

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I like the flop bet, betting the turn is a must, and I think 3-betting the river is a must. You only loose to Q9 here, which is unlikely 1) because you have two of those 9s and 2) because he cold-called two bets preflop. I have no idea what hand he'd have - he might have been slowplaying a set or two pair or something, you never know. The important thing is to realize you have the 2nd nuts and that it's very unlikely you're beat.

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This is EXACTLY what I thought. Unfortunately I wasn't so lucky, he did have the Q9; but next time I will win it. I would imagine it would be an error to just call this being second to the nuts. The villian could easily have me on AA,KK,QQ,AK, etc. and have been slow playing a set.

JB

[detruncate]

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I like the flop bet, betting the turn is a must, and I think 3-betting the river is a must. You only loose to Q9 here, which is unlikely 1) because you have two of those 9s and 2) because he cold-called two bets preflop. I have no idea what hand he'd have - he might have been slowplaying a set or two pair or something, you never know. The important thing is to realize you have the 2nd nuts and that it's very unlikely you're beat.

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This is EXACTLY what I thought. Unfortunately I wasn't so lucky, he did have the Q9; but next time I will win it. I would imagine it would be an error to just call this being second to the nuts. The villian could easily have me on AA,KK,QQ,AK, etc. and have been slow playing a set.

JB

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Yeah. Easy 3-bet unless you have a rock-solid read to the effect that Villain won't ever raise the river without the mortal nuts. I 3-bet 99+% of the time. He could be slowplaying a set. He could have rivered 2-pair. He might be overplaying a pair that's he's willing to call a 3-bet with. Etc. You have the 2nd nuts. Raise it up.