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Old 12-21-2005, 08:30 PM
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Default Defending your BB in Limit

Just read an article in Cardplayer titled Defending Blinds. It put a new spin on Limit Blind play that I always thought was a leak in my game. When should you call, when should you fold, what hands are playable and how many ways? After reading this article I think I will defend my blind MUCH more often in Limit but as the article states it all depends on the raiser and the raisers LP (Late Position) raising frequency.

How often do you defend your blinds in a Limit ring game and why?

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Old 12-21-2005, 10:14 PM
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Cardplayer is bad.
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:49 PM
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I just read the article in question and it seems to make a lot of sense (cents [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) to me. I'm way too tight with my bb defense and this approach seems like it's worth a try. I'm hoping others will chime here.
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Defending your BB in Limit

What limit are we talking about here?

Lower limits are filled with donks that play whatever two cards they get. Recognize this and about the top %50 of hands are worthy of play.

The higher the limits, the more people are likely to raise from the button.

You must decide for yourself and adapt to the situation
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:49 AM
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From the article:

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...when I’m in the big blind, I’m showing an overall loss of less than one big blind with 140 of my 169 hand combinations — meaning that as of now, I do better by calling with those 140 combinations than I would by folding them. To me, this is a pretty strong indicator that all of the people who advocate a loose blind-defending strategy are on the right track.

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This isn't clear to me. Is he referring only to hands when his BB is raised? Otherwise, this doesn't seem like a good argument at all.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:20 AM
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From the article:

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...when I’m in the big blind, I’m showing an overall loss of less than one big blind with 140 of my 169 hand combinations — meaning that as of now, I do better by calling with those 140 combinations than I would by folding them. To me, this is a pretty strong indicator that all of the people who advocate a loose blind-defending strategy are on the right track.

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This isn't clear to me. Is he referring only to hands when his BB is raised? Otherwise, this doesn't seem like a good argument at all.

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I don't see what is unclear. The topic is defending the bb. Doesn't this imply that someone put in a raise?
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: Defending your BB in Limit

In the latest cardplayer, there's the article you're talking about by Matt Mattros about defending your blind strongly, but then there's another article by Barry Tanenbaum which completely contradicts it. I believe Barry's article to be more appropriate.
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:50 AM
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Thats some seriously flawed logic to try and claim you're getting 4.5:1 heads up against a later position raiser.

While i agree in theory the odds are pretty much right to defend with any 2 cards even if you think your opponent has AK it all depends on how much faith you have in your ability to outplay you're opponent out of position.

Personally i'll wait for a better spot then 47o to defend.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Defending your BB in Limit

The definitive thread on blind defense.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:46 PM
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The definitive thread on blind defense.

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LOL Tongue firmly in cheek I trust. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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