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Old 12-12-2005, 07:21 AM
jackdaniels jackdaniels is offline
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Default Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

MP1 is typical ABC - so 88-AA, big Ace, 2 broadway here.
Button is a wild man. 90% of last 50 hands seen (crazy stuff like 62s at that). Any 2 here, but would definitly re-raise with a premium hand.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero???

Is this an easy fold? What if I have A8o? How About A3s?
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

I fold, but calling can't be awful, because I call if I'm suited.

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Old 12-12-2005, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

I would fold also.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

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Is this an easy fold?

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Yes.

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What if I have A8o?

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Fold.

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How About A3s?

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This one I think is close - and really depends on how well you play post-flop compared to MP Villian. I think you also need to factor in how bad the button plays after the flop. He may limp/cold-call 62o PF - but is he going to release right away if he doesn't hit something?
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

A3o, easy fold.

A3s, I'd call.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

You'd fold because you're looking to hit an Ace on the flop here and you risk domination. A3s is a call because the flush possibilty help that much.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

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You'd fold because you're looking to hit an Ace on the flop here and you risk domination.

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Yes, this was my thinking when I was deciding what to do. In fact, this is my general sense unless I am facing what is likely a steal raise. As to someone above that inquired about my post-flop play compared to original raiser: While I feel like I could run circles around both players after the flop, I would likely have to play this WA/WB if I did flop an Ace (because I knew what he is capable of raising with), therefore I opted to fold this.

I agree with the general consensus that a suited A leans more towards a call (still playing it WA/WB if all I get is an Ace on the flop) while an unsuited Ace (below AT) is prolly asking for trouble.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

I HATE Axo hands. Of course, never play outside blinds and in blinds I yearn for a raise so I can fold the poison.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

If it was MP3 or later I call Bit I lay this down.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Ace rag in the blinds - facing raise - line here?

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As to someone above that inquired about my post-flop play compared to original raiser: While I feel like I could run circles around both players after the flop, I would likely have to play this WA/WB if I did flop an Ace (because I knew what he is capable of raising with), therefore I opted to fold this.

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I think this line would be fine. However, if that's the only line that you have in the situation where you flop an ace - I wouldn't say that you're running circles around those players after the flop.
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