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Old 06-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Default 66 behind a min raise (Party $55)

I think options from best to worst are push, fold, call. About 48 hands are overpairs and if I put him on Ax, Kx, Q8+ then about 272 are overcards, maybe 50 or so which he'll call a push? Then there's the A2-A6, K2-K6. Comments on if typically this is too wide a minraise range I'm putting him on, or if I'm being too aggressive?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

MP1 (t1015)
MP2 (t725)
MP3 (t1625)
CO (t1490)
Button (t980)
SB (t1075)
Hero (t975)
UTG (t715)
UTG+1 (t1400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t200</font>, Hero...
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:24 PM
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I would push.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:27 PM
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If he were UTG and you were MPsomething, I would fold.

Given this table, I would absolutely push. I agree, that folding would be the only other option.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:29 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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I would call here. He might be trying to steal, but he might not (raising opens you up to a re-raise). 66 is not that strong 9 handed, and if you push and are wrong you finish 9th. You will have position on him after the flop so you have a big advantage post flop.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:33 PM
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I would call here. He might be trying to steal, but he might not (raising opens you up to a re-raise). 66 is not that strong 9 handed, and if you push and are wrong you finish 9th. You will have position on him after the flop so you have a big advantage post flop.

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I think this is incorrect. Maybe the minraise indicates he doesn't know what he's doing, but I would guess if you call there's a LARGE possibility of a stop and go, which you can't call unless you set up or maybe get a 345 flop. I think calling is just chip spewing...
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:40 PM
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I would call here. He might be trying to steal, but he might not (raising opens you up to a re-raise). 66 is not that strong 9 handed, and if you push and are wrong you finish 9th. You will have position on him after the flop so you have a big advantage post flop.

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I think this is incorrect. Maybe the minraise indicates he doesn't know what he's doing, but I would guess if you call there's a LARGE possibility of a stop and go, which you can't call unless you set up or maybe get a 345 flop. I think calling is just chip spewing...

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what is stop and go?
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:43 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Push. I'm not going to let this donkey minraise my BB for the rest of the tournament. If he has AA, so be it. If he has AK, we settle it right here.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:49 PM
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I would call here. He might be trying to steal, but he might not (raising opens you up to a re-raise). 66 is not that strong 9 handed, and if you push and are wrong you finish 9th. You will have position on him after the flop so you have a big advantage post flop.

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I disagree. You call and he bets out 275 into a junky Q95r flop. What do you do now?
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:58 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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so far the concensous is to push. I am surprised how many people say to push (in this thread and others). I just feel like I lose more often when I push pre flop (especially w/ a relatively weak hand), as opposed to post flop play (especially when I will have position).
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:00 PM
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I would call here. He might be trying to steal, but he might not (raising opens you up to a re-raise). 66 is not that strong 9 handed, and if you push and are wrong you finish 9th. You will have position on him after the flop so you have a big advantage post flop.

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I think this is incorrect. Maybe the minraise indicates he doesn't know what he's doing, but I would guess if you call there's a LARGE possibility of a stop and go, which you can't call unless you set up or maybe get a 345 flop. I think calling is just chip spewing...

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NO STOP N' GO!!!!!!!

You are not first to act. You DO have fold equity preflop.

I'm beginning to hate the stop n' go listening to everybody recommend it every damn hand.
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