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Old 12-29-2005, 06:04 AM
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Default Stealing the blinds with QQ

Villain is new to the table, but over 50 datamined hands, he's 28/18/4.5

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Thoughts? I had originally intended to somewhat slowplay them, perhaps raising the turn, but the K on the flop changed my mind, although against someone with those numbers I'm still fairly sure my hand is good a solid portion of the time. I don't know, can anyone find a raise in there?
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

I'd cap preflop, you know, so he won't 3-bet me when I'm stealing with 87s. Slowplaying is fine I guess. Aslong as villain will go batsh1t crazy with A8s on a 874 flop.

Postflop looks prefect.
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

I always cap preflop QQ-88 in these situations but only sometimes with AA/KK.

I think the postflop play is fine. If he has a K you certainly don't want to raise as he isn't folding and you don't want to raise him out of the pot. It's really only bad if he has a 6 or 3 and is drawing to five outs but that won't be the situation as often with small cards...
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

Gotta cap preflop. Postflop I Like. Don't let him off his bluff cheap, don't cost yourself money the times he has KT or 33
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:27 AM
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Ditto on the preflop cap. I don't see QQ as stealing LOL. I'm stealing from you when I raise with my 87o (eric, I might be overdoing alot now heh heh).

I like the line. I probably wouldna had the discipline to play it like that, but I like the line.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:21 AM
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If we cap preflop, what is the plan then if villain bets the flop? Still a call-down? His postflop bets seems much more scary if we were the one that put in the last raise preflop.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

I still just call down. You are WA/WB so let him continue to bet the worst hand or you lose the minimum if he spiked a K.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

if you want to raise, raise the river because if he has a K he won't 3-bet you because he'll be scared of the flush. Plus, if he was bluffing or betting something like 99, you'll get the max out of him.
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Stealing the blinds with QQ

For what it's worth, I would cap this the vast majority of the time, just chose to mix it up on this particular hand. As for finding a raise, I agree with one of the posts that if it's there, it's on the river. That being said, I don't think I'm going to get called by a worse hand often enough to make it profitable.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:57 AM
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Villain had 55 and MHIG.
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