my new favorite trick

pokerjoker · #1 08-14-2005, 10:23 PM

both villans are tight and 3%pfr

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($164.65)
MP1 ($57.20)
MP2 ($317.40)
MP3 ($484.10)
CO ($208.87)
Button ($249.41)
SB ($247.40)
BB ($215.65)
UTG ($233.70)
UTG+1 ($95.13)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero calls $2, MP2 calls $2, MP3 raises to $12, 4 folds, Hero calls $10, MP2 calls $10.

Flop: ($39) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets $15, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: $54

JihadOnTheRiver · #2 08-14-2005, 10:28 PM

15 into a 39 pot? i'm glad this worked for you, but it is a bad, -ev play.

Komodo · #3 08-15-2005, 07:47 AM

I like it. Well played! Probly one of them got KK or another pocket and says to himself: damn Ace. I have to fold.

BZ_Zorro · #4 08-15-2005, 07:51 AM

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15 into a 39 pot? i'm glad this worked for you, but it is a bad, -ev play.

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Exactly how often does he have to fold for this be a good, +EV play?

passion · #5 08-15-2005, 08:56 AM

If I where MP3 I would raise you regardless of what I had. You limped so he can't put you on a premium ace.

My point is that this works pretty good against a weak opponent, but I don't think this works generally.

Passion

chumsferd · #6 08-15-2005, 09:13 AM

nh.

I think leading for 2/3rds pot into one opponent like this is definitely +EV. I probably wouldn't normally do it into two of them though... do you find a lot of these tight players that will fold for a < half pot lead here? That probably does make it +EV... I just don't find enough of those guys, though...

pokerjoker · #7 08-15-2005, 09:41 AM

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If I where MP3 I would raise you regardless of what I had. You limped so he can't put you on a premium ace.

My point is that this works pretty good against a weak opponent, but I don't think this works generally.

Passion

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One thing I realized that helped me win a lot of $ is that not everyone thinks like I do. If this happened to me then me would see a $40 raise coming back at me....but im not trying to bluff myself so it works well.

#8 08-15-2005, 11:05 AM

This is correct. This play is -EV, especially against two opponents. That's nice that it worked for you, but I wouldn't make that play a habit.