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Old 08-02-2005, 11:21 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

I don't necessarily mean me but I mean anybody. I'll use my own stats as an example of what I mean. Nevermind the fact that I've only logged 9,000 hands at NL200 since this is just an example. A good player should be able to replicate these numbers after 50k or 100k hands. So why can't a good player be a pro making a SICK income off the NL200 fish? I never realized how much money can be made from just the 200 tables until I checked out my True Win Rate on PT today. Here are my stats after 9389 hands at NL200 on Party:

BB/100: 8.57
MT Ratio: 2.58
table hours: 50.45
True Win Rate: $63.76

So let's say that over the course of year someone makes slightly less than this...let's say $60/hr and plays 40 hours/week for 50 weeks (2 weeks vacation) then that's $120,000/year salary just from the 200 tables.

Increase your MT ratio or improve your BB/100 and it goes up even more. Beat up the NL400 tables for 6bb/100 and you're probably talking close to a $200,000 annual salary.

What am I missing here? Is this right?
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

1. 40 hours of poker a week 50 weeks is an insane amount of poker, have fun with that

2. if you play that much your winrate will drop off from burnout, exhaustion
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

thats only over 9K hands, which is nothing. 25 is still not enough.
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

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thats only over 9K hands, which is nothing. 25 is still not enough.

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I know that. But good players DO have win rates of 8bb/100 at NL200. Like I said, I'm talking about a good player, not me [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

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1. 40 hours of poker a week 50 weeks is an insane amount of poker, have fun with that

2. if you play that much your winrate will drop off from burnout, exhaustion

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I have played poker for 40+ hours a week for the last 6 months and I have fun with that. I'm sure other successful players log more.

Yeah, burnout is a factor and I've had to strike a tough balance between rest and poker to stay focused.
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

The calculations are correct though? 8BB/100 = ~$60 and hour or per 100 hands. Anybody wanna agree with this?
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

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The calculations are correct though? 8BB/100 = ~$60 and hour or per 100 hands. Anybody wanna agree with this?

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8bb/100 at NL200 is $32 for every 100 hands played. If you have 8bb/100 and you 2-4 table then that's how you get a figure like $60 or $70/hour as your hourly wage.
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

i gotcha so one table gets what about $25/hr?
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can\'t I be a NL200 pro?

Yep that's true, being a poker player can be very profitable. 120k+ a year is what the good players are making playing those stakes. A friend of mine is a top 10/20 NL player and he's up 430k for the year. Another friend of mine started poker 1.5 years ago and has made 330k so far. I however am an ingrate compared to them and I'm stuck at the .5/1 NL tables =(

PS. I should probably add that their stories are going to be the exception to the rule 99.999999% of the time.
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:10 PM
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Subject: Re: True Win Rate thoughts: Why can't I be a NL200 pro?

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you could

but

there are (apparently?) more things in life then poker
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