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Old 12-12-2005, 12:00 PM
jkkkk jkkkk is offline
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

I fold both pre-flop and on the flop.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

Preflop is definitely worth calling. Three people in already with good relative position and a decent hand.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

Good relative position? Hes 2nd to act on all streets.

Good hand?

I like it multiway in position in unraised pots, I don't think this is much of a great spot to be playing T8s in. Although I can only imagine how bad these players are, so it was probably correct to call, under normal conditions, I'd fold.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

I mean relative position to the raiser, meaning he is effectively last to act on the flop. Obviously not as good as the real thing, but at least something.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

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I mean relative position to the raiser, meaning he is effectively last to act on the flop. Obviously not as good as the real thing, but at least something.

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whaaa...

pfr (UTG) has position on Hero here... or am I missing something [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

There are 2 types of position absolute and relative. Realtive just means your position to a specific player in most cases a pre-flop raiser. Indeed your act before the raiser here, but you get to see show the whole field acts after the raisers flop action before it gets back to you so that is viewed as good relative postion. It will allow you to gain lots of info about peoples hands. Of course you would also have good realtive postion if you were button and someone opened up UTG with several callers in between. In that case you would have good realtive and absolute position.

C&R discuss this in No-Limit/Pot Limit poker.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing the other draw when mine doesn\'t hit

mmmm i dont like the turn call if your plan is to bluff diamonds/value bet A/9

if an A falls, i dont see how he can really call any sort of river value bet without 2pair or better, and he definitely might tempt himself into calling with 2pair/better even if a diamond hits and you bet out.
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