Questionable - KTs in SB

witeknite · #1 10-10-2005, 10:16 PM

Second hand at a table with 3 unknowns.

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB.

UTG/CO limps, Btn folds, I raise, and BB and limper call

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, both call.

Turn is another 8 and I check, BB bets, and limper and I fold.

My questions are, should I just complete this here in the SB, any point in betting the flop, and the is the turn an easy c/f?

Thanks.

WiteKnite

ArturiusX · #2 10-10-2005, 10:24 PM

I usually just complete here.

Postflop is fine.

Spicymoose · #3 10-10-2005, 10:26 PM

You are risking 1 BB to potentially win 6 BB if you hit your straight. 8%

Sometimes you hit a K or a T, and win 6, but sometimes lose 2. 12% of the time

Most of the time you will pay 1, not improve. 80%

When this happens, most of the time he will bet, and you will fold. Sometimes he will check, and you will check, but you will still lose.

I think overall this equates to folding, but I don't wanna do all the math.

Lmn55d · #4 10-10-2005, 10:26 PM

standard

Spicymoose · #5 10-10-2005, 10:29 PM

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Really? 4 handed and a CO limper? I think your equity is by far high enough to raise.

partygirluk · #6 10-10-2005, 10:35 PM

Not raising this preflop woudl be really, really bad.

witeknite · #7 10-10-2005, 10:49 PM

How do we feel about our hand if the turn is a T? What's a good line OOP vs. 2 with 3rd pair good kicker?

WiteKnite

ArturiusX · #8 10-10-2005, 10:50 PM

I would argue that not raising here gives us better options postflop.

Not saying raisings bad, but I usually complete here. Whats everyones cut off if they raise?

witeknite · #9 10-10-2005, 10:53 PM

I think I raise A6+, A4s+, 66+, KTo+, KT9s+, QJ, JTs, and maybe QTs if I'm feeling saucy and villians like to fold.

WiteKnite

wackjob · #10 10-10-2005, 10:54 PM

I wouldn't raise PF vs. 2 unknown limpers who both have position on you. Postflop is fine, but PF makes no sense to raise without reads. Your typical online fish has a wide limping range, but the chances that you are behind to Ax or a small-med PP or a better K is fairly good.