Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

[SCfuji]

does the sb 3-bet lightly?

id rather take this hand up against two-three than four-five opponents.

Hand 1: 28.4688 % [ 00.27 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 2: 28.3948 % [ 00.27 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 43.1364 % [ 00.42 00.01 ] { KsJd }

Hand 1: 22.1036 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 2: 22.0419 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 22.1749 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 4: 33.6795 % [ 00.33 00.01 ] { KsJd }

Hand 1: 18.1043 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 2: 18.0759 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 18.1118 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 4: 27.5824 % [ 00.26 00.01 ] { KsJd }
Hand 5: 18.1255 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }


hey brad, does this mean that hero should limp reraise when the action comes back after the sb raised?

[SlantNGo]

That's okay, I don't think calling is a leak. He said fold, and that is a leak. Calling and raising here is pretty close.

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I don't think I like raising this pre-flop, especially for someone who is out of practice. KJ is too easily dominated and a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.

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[Jaran]

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does the sb 3-bet lightly?

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Hadn't seen him 3bet at all so far, so can't really say. But, given the nature of the other callers, I don't think a 3bet from SB will shut any of them out anyway.

-Jaran

[deception5]

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a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.

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This is an interesting point.

This is certainly table dependent but I find if you just call, sb will complete ~80% of the time and bb will usually check without a strong multiway hand. If you raise, SB will call 10-20% of the time and BB will call ~60% of the time.

So I think a raise can often increase your pot equity and the times you don't hit you will have a free look at the turn fairly often (or a flop bet can give you a free look at the river). A preflop raise can also save you from the disaster of a reverse dominating hand like J4 or J5 in one of the blinds. Finally there are 2 limpers from MP which makes me think we are usually way ahead of them and they may even be the ones dominated or drawing slim. If there was an EP limper I would probably change to a call here.

However, given the read on the SB here I think a call is fine.

[Entity]

Yawn. Since you already have the button I don't see any significant reason to raise here. Suited is an easy raise, I like calling with KJo though.

Edit: Oh yeah, postflop is fine. Boring, even. Welcome back homie. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rob

[Fantam]

Welcome back [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think KJ is an awkward hand to play. If there have been 2 limpers before you, then I think it depends upon your assessment of these players, as to whether you play this hand or not from middle or late position.

If they play like tight agressive 2+2'ers, then I would fold PF. But if they are loose and passive as you suggested, then I would call. I dont think that KJo is a strong enough hand to raise with 2 players already in the pot and 2 more still to act behind you.

Having said that, this hand puzzled me for a while. But this is what I think may have happened:

SB raised PF with either AK or AQ and bet the flop with overcards. I put MP2 on either a straight or flush draw or something like Jx (weak kicker) or bottom pair.

Its more difficult to read MP3, because of his bet when he wakes up on the turn. Nonetheless, I dont think that he had 2 pair or a set, because I would have expected him to 3-bet your turn raise if he did. So, I think its more likely that he had something like 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and was still on a draw.

Overall I think that you played this hand fine and that you were correct to bet the flop, raise the turn and bet the river.

I expect that you then scooped up that nice big pot! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[johnc]

Preflop: Fold, call if you're confident in your reads of the table, but otherwise it's a trap hand most of the time against this many callers.

Flop: Good flop for you, good confident raise.

Turn: Like the raise

River: Value bet is iffy, but you're ahead enough of the time to make it worthwhile. You might be up against a weak 2 pair, but with these calling stations??

[deception5]

Given this:

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SB is raising light

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I think you give too much credit here (those are possible hands, but I think the range is much wider):

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SB raised PF with either AK or AQ and bet the flop with overcards

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[bozlax]

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You might be up against a weak 2 pair, but with these calling stations??

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But, lucky for our Hero, he has 2 pair, too. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Jaran]

MP2 shows down the most passively played AJo I've ever seen and takes the pot w/his kicker.

-Jaran