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  #81  
Old 06-12-2005, 11:13 PM
grimel grimel is offline
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The purpose isn't to provide other solutions, it's to explain to him (and apparently you) this idea has no future (see the bazillion responses to the legality and enforcability of it all).
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:27 PM
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So I can buy things offshore and then refuse to pay and there is no recourse?
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:34 PM
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If you bought an item off Ebay from a Canadian, he could sue you (in US court) when you refused to pay, or sue in Canada if you had assets in Canada. If what you bought was heroin, a hooker, or if he was a bookie and you lost some money to him, he couldn't.
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:47 PM
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This has nothing to do with gambling.

1. What we are talking about is a financial penalty upon violating a contractual agreement. Just like when you bounce a check, there is a "fee" for doing so.

2. Poker is gambling? It is a game of skill played for money just like any other semi-pro sport where there is a buy-in and a purse. Tennis and Golf for example...

Even the Internet Gambling Act that prevented funds from being transferred to offshore casinos had an amendment to DISCLUDE any game of skill where there was a set buy-in and payout. One could easily argue poker tournaments fall into this category. Ring games IMO also fall into this category although the argument is much more complex.
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:09 AM
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This has nothing to do with gambling.

1. What we are talking about is a financial penalty upon violating a contractual agreement. Just like when you bounce a check, there is a "fee" for doing so.

2. Poker is gambling? It is a game of skill played for money just like any other semi-pro sport where there is a buy-in and a purse. Tennis and Golf for example...

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Yes, poker is gambling. Better players win long term due to large number theory not just skill. The contract/T&C you hold so dear is over a gambling (hence illegal activity in most states) activity, hence unenforceable. This isn't rocket science.
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:14 AM
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2. Poker is gambling? It is a game of skill played for money just like any other semi-pro sport where there is a buy-in and a purse. Tennis and Golf for example...


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If poker isn't gambling, nothing is gambling.

There is of course skill involved, but the skill part only determines if you are gambling with a positive or negative expectation. You are still gambling after your skill have decided this. Just like the house is gambling (with positive expectation) in casino games like roulette and blackjack.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:29 AM
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Grimel, if you read the post above yours, you'll see that I already said I've ruled out USA. Your post is totally pointless, please read what I say before writing rude answers.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:32 AM
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The purpose isn't to provide other solutions, it's to explain to him (and apparently you) this idea has no future).

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That sounds like a constructive angle of discussion.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:38 AM
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You could be right about contractual agreements in this case being treated like gambling debts by USA, this I've never ruled out. But I'm not sure why you consider it total nonsense, and I honestly don't understand why you are so condescending. Of course I won't listen to your arguments when they start with "are you purposely dense?".
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Old 06-13-2005, 09:06 AM
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Why doesn't party just put identified bot users on distribution mode rather than banning them?
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