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Old 06-05-2005, 01:50 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default JJ overpair on monotone flop

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

MP ($175)
Hero ($2035.84)
SB ($670.75)
BB ($1129.25)
UTG ($881)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, SB (poster) calls $30, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($105) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $95</font>, Hero calls $95, SB folds.

Turn: ($295) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($295) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $295

I don't know how to play this one on any street...
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

I'd fold the flop, but since you didn't, I'd fire out on the turn... fold to any raise and check/fold the river.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:40 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

To those advocating a fold on flop, if I held J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], then is a call standard?
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

What do u do when 4th heart comes and u have Jh
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:19 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

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What do u do when 4th heart comes and u have Jh

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Hope?
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:22 PM
cardsharkk04 cardsharkk04 is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

If you fold on this flop you are way too tight for PP 6-max and good LAGS will run all over you. You didnt describe this villain, but I call this flop or raise to see where I'm at. Since you just called and he checked the turn I think a 1/2-3/4 the pot bet is good, and then if he calls/raises you are obviously done.
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

I really dont think it matters if u have the Jh or not, i mean, what other 1card flush will pay u off?
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:57 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair on monotone flop

small advantage of having the Jh means one less [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] can fall to (help) villains' hand, so your equity vs an over + lone heart (or that type of hand) goes up.

In terms of playability, however, you're abolutely right, the play of non heart JJ and heart JJ are similar.
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