200 NL

guaranteedBluff · #1 12-02-2005, 04:42 AM

Villian is TAG, 15/5.

Full ring, 200NL.

One limp, Villian Limp(200), Hero AKs (~200) Raise $12, call, call.

FLOP(~35)4TK rainbow - 3 players.
check, villian bets $35, hero .......

call... other player folds

TURN($105) 6 (completes rainbow)
villian pushes ($160), hero.......
folds

Comments on flop and turn appreciated.

#2 12-02-2005, 04:53 AM

There's not much that villain would be playing so fast here that you have beat. If he was 55/30 or something like that, I could see a call being reasonable, but no way against a 15/5 villain.
I have recently lost alot of money overplaying TPTK and overpairs as I moved up, and I have realized that in situations like these, you are beat a very large percentage of the time.

emil3000 · #3 12-02-2005, 04:53 AM

That kind of TAGishness means he'd probably only limpcall with a pocket pair maybe AK, AQ, right? Been a while since I played full ring. You're probably behind a predictable player. If he is somewhat tricky, it's closer. I think it's a good fold, although you might lay down a split sometimes.

Bukem_ · #4 12-02-2005, 04:57 AM

You know the turn bet is coming(or a cr all in), just drop it on the flop if the guy is a set miner.

His line is really retarded though, and proof that almost all 15/5 guys play poorly postflop.

guaranteedBluff · #5 12-02-2005, 06:02 AM

but why would he play a set this fast? It seems illogical to play a good hand so fast on an uncoordinated board like this one.

Kirkrrr · #6 12-02-2005, 06:10 AM

Very weird line for him, but calling the turn is ugly... about the only hand you're beating there is QK, which is possible but not likely enough to call the turn. Probably a good laydown. I think that unless he had QJ, he misplayed it badly.

Kirk

Kirkrrr · #7 12-02-2005, 06:19 AM

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but why would he play a set this fast? It seems illogical to play a good hand so fast

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... you just answered your own question. He put you on AK.

Kirk

4_2_it · #8 12-02-2005, 10:24 AM

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You know the turn bet is coming(or a cr all in), just drop it on the flop if the guy is a set miner.

His line is really retarded though, and proof that almost all 15/5 guys play poorly postflop.

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How retarded is his line if he has QQ or JJ?

Hattifnatt · #9 12-02-2005, 10:28 AM

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but why would he play a set this fast? It seems illogical to play a good hand so fast on an uncoordinated board like this one.

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If I was villian I would had played a set this way like 80-90% of the time, im not much of a TAG though most of the time.

guaranteedBluff · #10 12-02-2005, 01:02 PM

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but why would he play a set this fast? It seems illogical to play a good hand so fast on an uncoordinated board like this one.

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If I was villian I would had played a set this way like 80-90% of the time, im not much of a TAG though most of the time.

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Why is that? Do you think you would get calls from AK often enough to make it worth it? If he did have a set, he certainly could have extracted more from me. If he had QJ, JJ, QQ, I suppose it was a good play but dangerous...