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Old 10-16-2005, 10:39 PM
ninjaunderwear ninjaunderwear is offline
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Default KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (15.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero ???

How easy is this? I'm pretty sure I know the "correct" thing to do, but somebody (or somebodies) tell me so I can sleep well tonight.
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Old 10-16-2005, 10:43 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

Well the A is the scare card, in a pot with that many players I'm pretty sure someone has one.

It might be something like A/rag so they don't wanna bet it.

I don't think you have to worry about hte straight so much due to the fact you hold 2 of the kings.

It's a rough spot.
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Old 10-16-2005, 10:44 PM
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they all check, you have to bet it out here
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

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they all check, you have to bet it out here

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I agree with you, but why?
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

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they all check, you have to bet it out here

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I agree with you, but why?

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Believe it or not, we probably have the best hand, and if we don't we still have about 4 outs.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

Bet. You may have the best hand, and have 4 outs if not. (Plus 2 to a 10 out draw.) You'll also gain a free card on the turn if you want to take it.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

so, you saying we want to bet for value?
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:41 PM
Eeegah Eeegah is offline
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

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Believe it or not, we probably have the best hand

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This isn't correct; there's a 60% chance that someone has an ace, even if they're holding any two (and with 7 to the flop they may as well be).

I still bet out, but I'm half expecting a checkraise.

(edit: calculated for 5 opponents instead of six, making life even worse)
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:07 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: KK Flops Everything But in Multiway Pot

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Flop: (15.00 SB)

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Bet. You might bump into a check-raise from an ace, or a check-call from an ace, but you're also going to get looked up by queens and maybe even some jacks because of the pot size.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:16 AM
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I'd bet. You have the best hand here a lot of the time.
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