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09-27-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
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[ QUOTE ] Are they paying for the courses and testing? If so, it is competitive for that area, as well as personally beneficial. [/ QUOTE ] they are not paying for the courses, but they will pay for the exams. They will provide me with the course books, but I will be required to learn it on my own. I don't see this as a problem as I learned most of my computer skills from those big ass books myself. [/ QUOTE ] That'll work, I tend to do the same. If they have the 'CBT Nuggets' web-bsed courses available, they are a very good choice of course work. 
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#12
09-27-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
That seems pretty normal for IT. I'm sort of in a similar situation, just graduated from college (double major in engineering), got a job offer from Lockheed Martin in the northeast for 50k + benefits/everything else you typically get. You have to remember coming straight out of college you still are, for the most part, a rank amateur. But your salary should go up pretty quickly each ensuing year as you learn more.
It does stink that they don't pay for those classes you want to take. Most businesses pay for those types of things.
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#13
09-27-2005, 02:54 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You were making $40k at the coop as a college student? Wtf? Who were you blowing? [/ QUOTE ] That sounds like a pretty standard intern salary in the field. [/ QUOTE ] Are you serious? For someone not even out of school yet? i'm in the wrong business. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know the area but my friends who graduated with IT degrees (note, this isn't even programming, it's just networking/sys admin type stuff) were getting offers of 55K+ in Manhattan right out of school. I had a couple of 40K internships in school (I was computer science, not IT), both in pretty low cost of living places.
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#14
09-27-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You were making $40k at the coop as a college student? Wtf? Who were you blowing? [/ QUOTE ] That sounds like a pretty standard intern salary in the field. [/ QUOTE ] Are you serious? For someone not even out of school yet? i'm in the wrong business. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know the area but my friends who graduated with IT degrees (note, this isn't even programming, it's just networking/sys admin type stuff) were getting offers of 55K+ in Manhattan right out of school. I had a couple of 40K internships in school (I was computer science, not IT), both in pretty low cost of living places. [/ QUOTE ] There's your reason. He's in Georgia, major difference in cost of living.
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#16
09-27-2005, 03:40 PM
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[ QUOTE ] There's your reason. He's in Georgia, major difference in cost of living. [/ QUOTE ] Right.. probably a difference of say... 55k vs. 40k [/ QUOTE ] Yes, absolutely. Possibly an even wider margin here in the Bay Area vs. Atlanta also...
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#17
09-27-2005, 05:12 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
I am currently a Network Administrator and hiring manager and I can tell you that the Microsoft certifications are "almost" useless. I say this because there are about 50,000 people out there who have studied, passed the tests, but still can't tell you how to change the time on your computer. It's a paper-only degree and has absolutely zero bearing on your abilities as a network engineer. I will take a engineer with hands-on experience over a rookie MSCE any day of the week.
However, the one time they are worthwhile is if your current job is going to give you a raise if you get certified. If this is your case (which it sounds like it is), here's what you do: Search on the internet for as many sample exams as you can find. Do NOT take the classes. Study the hell out of the exams to the point where you've memorized just about every question. Then you will be able to pass the tests in a breeze.
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#18
09-27-2005, 05:26 PM
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Re: Job Offer - Network Engineer
do you really want to be an admin? because you're going to have a helluva time trying to code after getting pigeonholed into an admin job.
not that there is anything wrong with admin guys but it seems like it can be a serious pain in the ass without the typical programmer perks. If it's really what you want to do, go for it.
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