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Old 12-21-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.

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Yeah, it's not like there are any flush or straight draws out there, and there's absolutely no way you could have the best hand here and actually take down the pot, right?

It must be those reverse implied odds again that I don't understand, and that are so critical to doing well at the low buyin tables.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:52 PM
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Check-behind
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.

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Betting the flop is far from terrible. Man where does everyone here get their whacked out ideas about things like this? It's not mandatory to bet the flop but to call it terrible is ridiculous. You are giving both players the license to blow you out of the pot by betting the turn with nothing, and or the river. Not to mention they might end up beating your hand with a free card.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:53 PM
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If you bet and he check-raises all in what is your action?
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Yeah, it's not like there are any flush or straight draws out there, and there's absolutely no way you could have the best hand here and actually take down the pot, right?

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This is a pretty lousy flop for my hand because of the afformentioned things. I'd say the chances of getting checkraised here are fairly high.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Id say the chances of getting checkraised are not that high, although they arent that small either.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:01 PM
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Yes with a ten he will call even more than 150, but I also want a call from a donk who just wants to see what I have or has a small pocket pair. I am looking for quantity of 75s to supercede the return I will get from the 150 call from a ten. Make sense?
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:05 PM
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You shouldn't be trying to get a better hand to fold with a bet.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:11 PM
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If you bet and he check-raises all in what is your action?

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Call, it's missed diamonds as often as it's an ace.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:13 PM
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Yes with a ten he will call even more than 150, but I also want a call from a donk who just wants to see what I have or has a small pocket pair. I am looking for quantity of 75s to supercede the return I will get from the 150 call from a ten. Make sense?

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If he called 125 with 77 on the turn he will call 125 on the river nearly always.
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