38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let's play "SPOT THE MISTAKES"

[milesdyson]

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betting and just calling a raise.

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.

[JackThree]

flop call seems +variance

[kidcolin]

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betting and just calling a raise.

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.

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I agree. If you're going to make super loose flop calls to hit a back door draw, you better get every bet in that you can.

I think the flop isn't OK.. it's atrocious.

[ejay]

there were a few mistakes if you ask me. There is no way i cap and i am leaning towrads folding. I am 29/17 so i am usally pretty aggresive but here you daont really know what you are looking for except for a flush. On the flop there is no way that you can call two cold with basically two over cards (prolly no good) and 2 backdoor draws.

How can anyone advocate not capping this river? We have the second nuts.

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3 outs is 14.3 to 1. + Maybe .25 outs for each overcard, that's an easy call IMO.

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You need 14.3:1, you are not getting 14.3:1 and your not closing the action, how the hell is that an easy call?

Also if you are saying bdfd and bdsd are a total of 3 outs, then that is completely wrong. the SD is worth no more than .5 outs.

True

[NLfool]

I think the flop call is pretty bad. Yeah the odds are there but if any of them has JJ-AA and even something crappy as JQ-AK you're screwed.

[TomBrooks]

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betting and just calling a raise.[on the river]

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.

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I agree. For some reason, when I wrote the above I was thinking we had a Q high flush, and with that I would probably be afraid to reraise. With a King high I would reraise.

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How can anyone advocate not capping this river? We have the second nuts.

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posters are talking about the pre-flop cap