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Old 10-28-2005, 08:55 PM
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Right, so it's PP 30-60 and we're ten handed. I've been at the table for three hours and I'm playing pretty tight because i was at work and wasn't bored enough to open up a new bag of tricks. There are three players in the game that are mediocre at best, and that's why i'm playing while i'm at work, also why I was playing tight. This hand might seem very standard, but I'd like you guys to critique, applaud, or bash all to hell if your heart so desires.


Tex is SB, K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Folds around to CO, who raises. ( mediocre player, playing aggressive, but not playing a lot of hands, either)

Button folds, I three bet, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I lead, CO raises, I call.

Turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, CO checks behind.

River 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet....


Boringly standard here?

What is villain raising with here on the flop, to, presumably, take a free card besides the obvious choice....?


BTW, do you think small pockets pay off in this spot or do they generally fold without an A or a J???
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Status quo on this one?

Check and fold the river.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Status quo on this one?

Thanks, BK, for the input. Could you elaborate a little?

And what do you think the flop raise means in this spot?
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Status quo on this one?

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Thanks, BK, for the input. Could you elaborate a little?

And what do you think the flop raise means in this spot?

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That he either has an Ace and will fire at you again on the turn or check behind on the turn and pay off almost any river.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:03 PM
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the only hand that folds this river is 22-88, and even then i think it would be only 25%.

not that bad though. and i like PF
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:03 PM
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You dont think he's folding any thing besides a busted draw on the river here?

what about PF? good line by me?


Tex
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:04 PM
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Thanks. I was thinking that's the right play PF. But you go with the check/fold river UI?
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:10 PM
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Thanks. I was thinking that's the right play PF. But you go with the check/fold river UI?

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Yeah everything is fine except for the river bet, which really isn't all that bad either. I agree with Klepton that you probably won't get something better to fold enough to warrant a river bet.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Status quo on this one?

This is going to be a bad A or a J almost all of the time. He almost certainly doesn't have some kind of a draw if he's at all competant as this is a really stupid board to raise for a free card. You'll get one often enough by just calling.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:16 PM
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!!micro lurker asking a stupid pf question!!

why the threebet pf? It seems like KQs is only marginally better than neutral vs a typical stealing range, and you're oop. Is this purely a value raise?

I can see the advantage of being being able to follow up and represent a piece of this flop, but it seems like you're representing into a player whose range includes quite a bit of this flop as well, especially if you include potential draws from QT and KT.

why not just call and let BB put the extra bet in for you? your hand plays well multiway, and if BB comes along many decisions become much easier.

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is villain capable of checking behind on the turn to induce a river bluff?
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