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#12
09-12-2005, 12:48 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
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to those who like checkraising. why is checkraising better than betting or checkcalling? [/ QUOTE ] Check/raising might be best against aggressive thinking players who might now misread your hand (i.e. they would expect trip kings to slow play and might now give excessive action). Otherwise, I like check/calling. 
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#13
09-12-2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
I think betting this flop is very much the way to play it. The pre-flop raiser was on the button here, so you can likely trap opponents for more bets. The solid player may figure you for a hand like 77 and hopefully will raise with another overpair.
Check-raising is just likely to face much of the field with two bets cold here and encouraging folds. I can't see any reason why we'd want to check-raise here. Check-calling just seems to be losing value here. Check-calling is nice if we can expect that we'll get a flop bet from someone earlier than button, but we can't expect that. A check-call seems only to set up one of two things: -A turn donk... this seems to bring little over a flop lead because we're probably missing flop bets. -A turn check-raise... this will definitely cost customers if it is the button (most likely) we are check-raising. Oh.. yeah... FOLDING IS NOT AN OPTION IN THIS HAND... PLEASE TAKE THIS TO SHOWDOWN
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#15
09-12-2005, 12:57 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
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If you want to extract the maximum, is it a bad play to bet, get raised, and re-raise? [/ QUOTE ] Heads-up, no. That's because heads-up QQ has a much harder time folding. But in a multi-way pot, you want to create action. One other thing you (and everyone else?), might be overlooking: If the pre-flop raiser has a king and no one else does, you're bet accomplishes the worst possible thing. That is, it gets you heads-up with a hand you're in trouble to.
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#16
09-12-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
You should raise preflop, like others have said.
On the flop I like bet/3 betting. With your relative position to the solid player leading this flop gievs you the best chance to get in as many bets as possible. If he has a pair he will likely raise; if he doesn't have a pair he will check through too often given the number of players in the pot. After it comes back to you 3 bet I would cap and keep firing.
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#17
09-12-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
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[ QUOTE ] If you want to extract the maximum, is it a bad play to bet, get raised, and re-raise? [/ QUOTE ] Heads-up, no. That's because heads-up QQ has a much harder time folding. But in a multi-way pot, you want to create action. One other thing you (and everyone else?), might be overlooking: If the pre-flop raiser has a king and no one else does, you're bet accomplishes the worst possible thing. That is, it gets you heads-up with a hand you're in trouble to. [/ QUOTE ] Realize that check-raising the pre-flop raiser is MUCH more likely to get you heads-up with him than betting is. If you bet and get callers, those callers are going to have a hard time folding to another bet from late position. I don't like three-betting a late position raise, as it will encourage folds. I think calling the flop raising and leading the turn (ye 'ole' donk-bet) is going to be a better way to encourage action. I can't see how anyone is seriously considering check-raising here...
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#19
09-12-2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
"After it comes back to you 3 bet I would cap and keep firing."
Wow! Why so aggressive sir? But maybe I'm just too weak [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I assume you will slow donw if you get riased again on the turn, right?
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#20
09-12-2005, 01:27 PM
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Re: Trip Ks on the Flop
i know betting pre flop is good, but i often have trouble when i raise preflop and dont hit and there are three and four players behind me.....you cant keep firing at that many players........what would you do with a flop like:
assume rainbow A 4 7 or J 10 6 ect,ect?
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