Two pair against massive aggression--just call down?

WordWhiz · #1 09-06-2005, 01:45 AM

MP is new to the table--just his second hand. But in his first hand, he lost mucho $$ with a flush to two higher flushes! So maybe tilting a little?

Two pair is a great hand on this ragged board, but MP3 just isn't letting up. Keep betting back at him, fold, or call down?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

aK13 · #2 09-06-2005, 01:54 AM

looks good.

gaming_mouse · #3 09-06-2005, 02:06 AM

yes

Bodhi · #4 09-06-2005, 03:05 AM

This looks fine to me, though you're an underdog a majority of the time.

Matt Jenko · #5 09-06-2005, 04:02 AM

i'd expect to lose, but i call down as well.

#6 09-06-2005, 06:36 AM

I'm a newb but I would have bet the turn. After the previous hand, I doubt he would have the patience to smooth call JJ or 99 in MP.
I'd put him on a draw or J pairing. The only hand I can envisage losing to at this point would be J9 (or very slim possibility of trip dueces).

TheNerd · #7 09-06-2005, 07:01 AM

Preface: I have no clue what I'm talking about.

I'd be tempted to raise the river. Assuming this player is not actually a monkey pushing buttons at random (sometimes not a safe assumption) what could he have?

1. Pocket 99's and 22's seems pretty remote.
2. JJ would surely have raised, wouldn't you think?
3. He might have AA or KK. Since the board didn't pair on the river your hand is still the best in that case.
4. AJ, you're still smiling.
5. J9s, you're not.

It seems to me that he's betting a little scared, trying to push people out. With a rainbow flop, he can't be worried about a flush so I believe he doesn't have a set. The only thing to worry about is a higher two pair the J9.

What do you think?

fire_fly · #8 09-06-2005, 07:07 AM

I'm seeing the only logical holding you're actually behind to here is J9 but I could really see him being "sly" with AA/KK here.

I'd play the flop the same but bet out on turn and call down from there if he still goes apesh*t. I think you're ahead here enough of the time to want to put in 1 or 2 more bb.

my 2c