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Old 02-16-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from the book MidLimitHP

LOL, you're Bob Ciaffone? If you're the real Bob I just lost all respect for you. If you're not, that was really funny. I'm pretty sure you're not.

If you are for real - you're still a fool. Not every example in your book is 100% correct. Debating stuff like this is how you get better, that's the entire point of the book, right? Thinking deeply about the examples. Whatever.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:11 PM
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How many World Series of Poker final tables have you been to? How many books have you written? I am Bob Ciaffone. You will do what I say!
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:20 PM
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Bob Ciaffone PWNS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:27 PM
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That made me laugh
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:32 PM
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Despite the weak-tightness present throughout that book, I happen to think he's correct in both hands. When you get called in 3 spots, even by loose players, it's probably time to give up top pair, no kicker. In the second hand, you might as well bet out. Overpairs probably won't raise, but top pair or a draw might take a free card.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from the book MidLimitHP

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Despite the weak-tightness present throughout that book, I happen to think he's correct in both hands. When you get called in 3 spots, even by loose players, it's probably time to give up top pair, no kicker. In the second hand, you might as well bet out. Overpairs probably won't raise, but top pair or a draw might take a free card.

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Why do you insist on calling it top pair no kicker when it's actually top and bottom pair?

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Old 02-16-2005, 07:38 PM
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There's no way this is Bob Ciaffone.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from the book MidLimitHP

According to HEPFAP, 99 and TT are fine limping hands if the game is moderatly tight or tough. They are not autoraise hands in this game so I put them in the realm of possibility of holdings of my opponent.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:51 PM
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In case you missed it, in the first hand, we have Top & Bottom pair. Not just top pair. You can very easily be ahead after getting called in 3 spots on flop.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from the book MidLimitHP

this is one thing I don't really understand about HPFAP. how does limping up front in a tough game make things better than raising? it only increases the chances you're out of position without initiative. at least if you're 3-bet, you know you're looking at a legitimate hand and can play accordingly. if you limp and are raised, it could easily be a light isolation raise by someone who knows you're a tight player who will fold his AJo or KQo on teh flop if he missses.
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