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10-28-2005, 09:05 PM
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30-60 River Decision
Hawaiian Gardens the other night. I had AKo in the cutoff and raised behind one EP limper, and the SB and EP called. Flop was A T 5 rainbow. SB bet, EP called, I raised and only the SB called. Turn was another 5 and the SB bet. I only called. River was a 2 offsuit and the SB bet, and I went into the tank (well, about 10 seconds, which is the tank in limit). Should I have called?
The SB is a generally solid player, fairly tight, somewhat aggressive, and who bluffs occasionally -- what I consider a "typical" player. After the hand I conducted an instant verbal poll of the table and four respondants said basically "you have to call." No one said a fold was correct. Were they right? Questionable laydowns on the river are not the way to go, but was this situation really that questionable? Thoughts appreciated. Sparks 
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10-28-2005, 09:47 PM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
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i think raising is better than folding, but calling is probably best, no you cant fold here, easy call [/ QUOTE ] Why would I consider a raise here? You think he plays his hand like that with AQ or AJ? I don't. Sparks
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#5
10-30-2005, 02:44 AM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] i think raising is better than folding, but calling is probably best, no you cant fold here, easy call [/ QUOTE ] Why would I consider a raise here? You think he plays his hand like that with AQ or AJ? I don't. Sparks [/ QUOTE ] I see no reason for a raise and I call the River the majority of the time, as you cannot let them play at you. However, an occassional fold, when your instincts tell you it's the right move, is not bad. Even if it was a bluff, you now will get played at and folds in this type situation are no longer an option the rest of the session. If you are getting your share of cards, you should make it up later. There is a big difference between live & on-line play. On-line, this is an unquestionable call, unless you are playing 1 table and know your opponent really well.
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#6
10-28-2005, 09:19 PM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
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10-28-2005, 09:21 PM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
Nah man, stay here.
Raise the river. Never fold.
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10-28-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
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The fold is absurd online. It's not online, but I still think it would be a bad fold. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. The difference between online and live, all rolled up in a nutshell. As far as the live game situation, I was staring right at him, knew how he played (a typical player), and basically there was only one hand he could have, and it was better than mine. In my head I said there was a 90% chance he had that hand, so a fold was actually correct in this case. In the actual hand, I said "I know I'm beat, you have thus and so." Then called. And lost. Sparks What happened to the Live At the Bike 30 game? They killed it.
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10-30-2005, 02:50 AM
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Re: 30-60 River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] The fold is absurd online. It's not online, but I still think it would be a bad fold. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. The difference between online and live, all rolled up in a nutshell. As far as the live game situation, I was staring right at him, knew how he played (a typical player), and basically there was only one hand he could have, and it was better than mine. In my head I said there was a 90% chance he had that hand, so a fold was actually correct in this case. In the actual hand, I said "I know I'm beat, you have thus and so." Then called. And lost. Sparks What happened to the Live At the Bike 30 game? They killed it. [/ QUOTE ] And, when you're A+ game saves you a bet, as it did here, advertising the fact that you are on top of your game, as you did here, is a -EV move. Wait to feed your Ego after the session.
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