TPGK on monotone board

jsnipes28 · #1 12-02-2005, 09:11 PM

PokerPlex 50NL 6MAX(getting my free $50, are you?)
Both Players have roughly ~50 and villain has been raising a number of hands although they havent gotten to showdown yet. Seems decent, but no real reads. Maybe 15-20 hands at table.
Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and calls .5
MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 2.5, all folds to hero who calls 2.
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, MP bets 5, Hero raises to 14, Villain raises all in.

I assume that this is a pretty clear fold, but generally should i lead or c/r a flop like this. or is c/c and lead turn a better idea.

orange · #2 12-02-2005, 09:19 PM

I think fold is best. You are not ahead of much. I don't like a c/r on the flop- leading is best IMO.

Reef · #3 12-02-2005, 09:27 PM

you're either a little ahead or a lot behind IMO. You can fold this

TexArcher · #4 12-02-2005, 09:30 PM

I lead at it on the flop, and you can definitely lay this down.

I'm also raising pre-flop.

jsnipes28 · #5 12-02-2005, 09:34 PM

i would usually raise this preflop but i was relatively new at the table and was trying to figure out the "hustle and flow" of the table before i started doing too much

Hattifnatt · #6 12-02-2005, 09:34 PM

I would just lead and fold if he raises.

Big_Jim · #7 12-02-2005, 09:54 PM

Why no PF raise? MIxinG iT uP?!

That flop c/r is really gross, I hate bluffing with TPGK.

Against an unkown, there are two lines I would consider:

Bet/Fold flop. Bet/Fold turn if called. Check/Call river. (all assuming no hearts hit, check/fold if they do).

Check/Call Flop. Bet/Fold turn. Check/Call river.

I lean toward the latter, because then we get continuation bet monies in, and make him less likely to semi-bluff the turn.

ajmargarine · #8 12-02-2005, 10:00 PM

I lean toward the c/c flop line also. I want to get out if another heart hits the turn, and I want his odds cut in half when a non-heart hits the turn. You're just opening yourself up to a villian push here by c/r'ing which you shouldn't have done, IMO, if you weren't willing to get all-in, which you shouldn't be.