Flop 2 pair, then things turn ;-) sour

#1 11-12-2005, 08:08 PM

Assume no reads at first.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.07.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)

Hero ... ?

And then what is the right plan if bet into/raised?

Now assume bet into/raised by loose aggressive?

Thanks for your help!

#2 11-12-2005, 08:14 PM

bet\call.

Felipe · #3 11-12-2005, 08:22 PM

yeah. I like bet/call here too. Don't give a free card here! that's very bad. You could have the best hand, if not, you've got 4 outs to a boat. If you do have the best hand, people have a lot of draws to beat you. Don't give them that chance for free. BETting is near mandatory. If the action is very crazy, checkyour pot odds. Pot odds of 9:1 10:1 (maybe lower if you've got a lot of action and many players, the implied odds will be quite large) seem adequate to call and pray for a J or T on the river.

ajm36 · #4 11-12-2005, 08:25 PM

Autobet the turn--everytime. If raised, call and ceck/call the river (unless another diamond hits and there is any action or two people other than you are going to showdown--also call if the pot is large).

Bill Lumberg · #5 11-12-2005, 08:43 PM

Bet the turn. You can't assume the worst in poker, plus you have outs. And the worst thing to do here would be give a free card. How would you feel if it was checked through? With no reads, and a decent pot, I'm calling down if raised. The size of the pot, the chance that you would still be best, and the chance that you would draw out combined makes it worth a call down, especially if it's a LAP.

ArturiusX · #6 11-12-2005, 08:46 PM

Bet-call is really the only line here.

#7 11-12-2005, 08:51 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I bet, got raised, and called the raise, just as people are suggesting I should have (there's a first time for everything [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

Three players saw the river come 5 of spades. I checked (right?), UTG+2 checked, loose/aggressive MP3 bet.

I should ... ?

#8 11-12-2005, 08:53 PM

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Thanks for the feedback! I bet, got raised, and called the raise, just as people are suggesting I should have (there's a first time for everything [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

Three players saw the river come 5 of spades. I checked (right?), UTG+2 checked, loose/aggressive MP3 bet.

I should ... ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Call. Get overcalls.

ArturiusX · #9 11-12-2005, 08:53 PM

Call.

#10 11-12-2005, 08:56 PM

call and nh