Common situation, raised on turn

NoTalent · #1 03-24-2005, 10:13 AM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB raises, Hero ?

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Can you get away from this? Raise preflop in MP with a Strong hand, TPGK and get reraised on the turn. BB is quite loose passive just calling along with any part of the flop.

J.R. · #2 03-24-2005, 10:17 AM

calls getting almost 10-1

ArturiusX · #3 03-24-2005, 10:33 AM

Might be up against a turned set of 5s, a very tough laydown to make though.

Another hands could be A5 or 85, which you have a few outs for each.

I'd call down.

krishanleong · #4 03-24-2005, 10:45 AM

No way you can lay this down. You have to hope he's getting frisky with a weak ace or you'll counterfeit his 2 pair on the river. Easy call down with a hand with showdown value.

Krishan

TMFS9 · #5 03-24-2005, 11:04 AM

I find this is a common line for a weaker ace out of the blinds, and I sometimes take this line with a weak ace on a A Q x board where I feel villan is betting middle pair and will pay off a raise. What I have been doing in your situation is calling the turn and raising the river. I find that it's much harder for them to 3 bet you on the river with two pair and they will certainly call the raise with a weaker A, as I expect to be shown a weaker A with much greater frequency than 2 pair or a set.

NoTalent · #6 03-24-2005, 12:19 PM

That's what I did, and what I usually do in these situations. Last night I ran into 6 or 7 of these where I had top pair top or good kicker and bet all the way and got bumped back on the turn or river.

lostinthought · #7 03-24-2005, 12:24 PM

I call down here against all but the most tight passive opponents.

Rubeskies · #8 03-24-2005, 01:44 PM

Villain could be on a complete bluff once the button folds leaving it HU. It isn't actualy a terrible time to bluff in a decent sized pot if he has a read that you can make folds. He could be doing this with a small pair, pp, 2 spades, or even nothing at all.

This is just another reason to call down. Especially with the wackos that play 6-max.