River play?

#1 09-23-2005, 10:17 PM

PokerRoom 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx It should also mention that I have pocket jacks

Preflop: is with , . MP1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, peet raises, 6 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, peet bets, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, peet bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, peet 3-bets, UTG+1 caps.

River: (13.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets., peet (as hero is apparently now known) ??

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

istewart · #2 09-23-2005, 10:21 PM

I'd call.

McGahee · #3 09-23-2005, 10:26 PM

I'm more of a handreading guy than a math/probability guy so I'd call. The flop & turn action tells me an unknown 1/2 player probably has trip 5's and it sucks that the case hit on the river. If you raise yur losing 3 when YHING and yur lucky to win 2 when YHIG.

TredWel · #4 09-23-2005, 10:30 PM

A lone five is a strange card to see in a UTG+1 hand. A read would make this hand a lot easier.

Anyway, I'd probably keep raising and curse my luck when he turns over the case five.

Jefzter · #5 09-23-2005, 11:46 PM

I would doubt that a UTG+1 would have a 5, let alone have made trips on the flop and just call but then raise and cap after the J on the turn. I would be thinking UTG+1 had the other J so I would re-raise the river.

#6 09-24-2005, 12:55 AM

Raise and call a 3 bet.

#7 09-24-2005, 01:17 AM

Having reads might help, but I would call expecting to lose to 4 of a kind, I just couldnt bring my self to lay this down unless I knew how UTG played well enough to know I was def beat...

After reading some of the other responses, I agree that reads would be alot easier because than you could tell what starting hands UTG would call a PFR with...I have seen very loose players call junk from this spot so a 5 is possible...and they could slow play their set, you never know with some players...I was also thinking UTG had either a 5 in his hand or another J because he didnt show real agg till the turn J....tough decision on the river without reads...

Hades18

digitalis · #8 09-24-2005, 01:54 AM

Most of the time you're either chopping or losing here so there is no value in raising.

Get your barf bag ready, then call.

#9 09-24-2005, 01:55 AM

I would just call here as well. I don't put him on a J, since he was so aggressive on the turn vs the preflop raiser. I can only see a hand with a 5 in it or 44 playing this way.

istewart · #10 09-24-2005, 02:24 AM

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Most of the time you're either chopping or losing here so there is no value in raising.

Get your barf bag ready, then call.

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You can't be chopping, lol.