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Old 11-05-2005, 01:01 PM
FlyingStart FlyingStart is offline
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Default Too passive with QQ?

Villain is 21%/5%

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($264.50)
UTG+1 ($52.80)
UTG+2 ($95)
MP1 ($101.40)
Hero ($99.30)
MP3 ($97.15)
CO ($35)
Button ($60.30)
SB ($68.70)
BB ($107.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $5, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: ($11.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($31.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($31.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $61.50

Should I have bet the turn? what about the river call?
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Too passive with QQ?

Reraise preflop, and bet the turn (probably a 1/2 pot bet) to see where you stand.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Too passive with QQ?


The answer to every question here is "yes". You should have bet or raised every street but the river, which you shouldn't have even seen.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:08 PM
HtotheNootch HtotheNootch is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with QQ?

Why didn't you raise PF?

However, considering the way you played it, I think you have to bet the turn. This just smells like AK,AQ, or KQ. I'm thinking the size of the pot, or given your stack, just push.

As for the river, I think he got there with and you're beat, but you're getting 4-1 on the call. So absent reads, you might be justified in calling.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Too passive with QQ?

Does everyone think I should re-raise this villain preflop?

On the turn I think I like the half pot bet to get rid of high cards that made a continuation bet.

Any reason for the full pot? With villains stats AJ is not really likely, and TT will not call full pot.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:41 PM
Morrek Morrek is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with QQ?

I think a reraise preflop is preferred by most, but on these stakes I doubt it matters that much. Turn halfpot bet sounds perfect to me.
edit: didn't notice you weren't the one beting the flop... I would consider potsize-raising this flop unless you're positive he doesn't bet draws.
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:42 PM
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Preflop, sometimes i reraise, sometimes not. depends on opponent.

On the flop, you can pretty much find out where you are by raisng there. even just a miniraise to 20. I put him on AK here. he checked the turn because he was scared of your call and didnt have anything. its not like that 6 helped him unless he had JJ.

Given your line, you should have bet the turn pretty hard. AK goes bye-bye.

Fold river.
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