How do you play Top Two against this?

No information at the table, or on any players yet.. still in the first orbit. Hero has ~ $1500 and Villian has ~$2000, everyone else has effective stacks of ~ $2000

Villian Posts SB of $10
Hero Posts BB of $20

3 callers up to SB who completes... Hero Checks in BB with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

flop (100) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets $100, Hero calls $100, everyone else behind folds

turn (300) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets $300, Hero pushes ~$1380

Do you like the line? how often do you expect 67 or a set?

You're up against 58, 59, another 89, 67, or a set.

I'd just call down as played, but raise the friggin' flop! I'm assuming you lost to 67, though.

is there no reason so slow play this on the flop?

[Prevaricator]

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turn (300) 4
SB bets $300, Hero pushes ~$1380

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how often do you expect 67 or a set?

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most of the time that I'm called. He could put you on a pair with turned heart draw though so that might skew his calling range somewhat.

[hfrog355]

I think you have to re-raise this flop.

I think you lucked out with a 4 hitting. There are a ton of scare cards (5, 6, 7, 10 or even J) that are going almost make you fold this hand.

Other than not re-raising the flop, I like your play. How'd it turn out for ya?

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Other than not re-raising the flop, I like your play.

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This advice is awful. Any solid player is only calling with a hand that beats you. And with this much strength on the turn, he's probably beating you.

It's an unraised pot, no reason to go broke here when 67 is a very likely holding. If this pot were raised preflop, it's a different story, but it wasn't. Just call the turn as played.

if i call that on the turn, chances are if he has sucha strong hand he will bet huge on river. If it blanks, i call that too?.. is him having A9 not a possibility

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if i call that on the turn, chances are if he has sucha strong hand he will bet huge on river. If it blanks, i call that too?.. is him having A9 not a possibility

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Yes, you can call a reasonable size bet on the river. And if you fill up, then you can push. A9 is a possibility of course, but he won't call your all-in on the turn. Think about it... If it were you, and you bet 300 on the turn and another player went all in for 1000 more, what would you be able to call with? I think you would need at least a set in an unraised pot like this. He's only calling your all-in with a hand that beats you, so there is no reason to push. If he's losing, let him keep betting. If he's winning, get away cheap, or complete your full house and take his stack.

alright alright,

good analysis,

thanks prod.

[hfrog355]

How is the advice so awful?

Most of the deck could be considered a scare card.

I'm advocating his move to take down the pot right here.