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Old 12-13-2005, 01:33 PM
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I think the only thing you would worry about is KQ or a set unless one of these players is the type that will limp AQ in this situation.


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2 of the 3 players to act ahead of me, including the raiser, were in the blinds. Not many players are capping AQo out of the blinds, not may are folding it either at this level.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:38 PM
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I chuck this when it's 2 back to me preflop.

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I disagree. The 3 bettor was all in and tilting. Even if someone does have a premium hand here I don't mind paying 3, or even 4 bets to see a 6 way flop with QJs. Too much monster potential for me.

Would you fold this hand in the BB if was 2 bets to call and you knew you'd get 6 way action on the flop?
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:38 PM
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You're likely up against a better Q and with no Str8 or Flush possibilities it's time to move on.

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Old 12-13-2005, 01:41 PM
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IMO, anything beyond the pf limp is borderline spewing. I fold to 2 back to me.

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I'm really surprised that multiple people have said this so far. See my response to Bozlax for my take on preflop. I'll happily pay the 2 back to see a flop with that many opponents with a hand as good multiway as QJs. I wonder what Ed Miller would say.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:46 PM
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IMO, anything beyond the pf limp is borderline spewing. I fold to 2 back to me.

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I'm really surprised that multiple people have said this so far. See my response to Bozlax for my take on preflop. I'll happily pay the 2 back to see a flop with that many opponents with a hand as good multiway as QJs. I wonder what Ed Miller would say.

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MP can be pushing any 2 all-in. PF is an easy call.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:54 PM
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Yes. You should be able to fold at least the MP player and possibly SB as well. I am not going to fold TP with a J kicker in this huge pot because SB could easily have been betting a draw and BB could have another draw, a Q with a weak kicker, TT, JJ, or a bunch of other hands I beat. So my choices are call or raise. I think "raise" is the best choice here since it will thin the field, give me position and I probably can see a free card on the turn if I want it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:04 PM
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Calling the flop and raising a non A/K/ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn seems like a much more effective way if thinning the field if I choose to continue.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:13 PM
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If you call the flop MP2 is much more likely to call, and then SB definitely won't fold.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:20 PM
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*grunch*

FLOP: Hero three-bets to get players out of this big pot. You may be up against kicker trouble, but there are lots of draws out there. See what turn brings.

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Old 12-13-2005, 02:57 PM
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Grunch:

Getting 11:1, I still fold.

If there was a diamond on the board I would call.
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