Optimal VPIP and PFR% for 6-max NL ring?

[anacrime]

What is the optimal VPIP and PFR% to have in 6-max NL ring games?

My stats after 50k hands is 27,9%. I think my VPIP should be much, much lower. Any thoughts?

[xorbie]

Probably around 20/7 if you're not too confident in your postflop play.

The real answer is that your VPIP and PFR are going to be different depending on the texture of the game you are in. 6-max games come in all flavors, and the best way to profit is to play in a manner that's opposite the general trend of the table. LAGGY play with lots of continuation betting will enable you to crush the tight/passive games. However, TAGGY play and simply betting your solid holdings for value is what will get you the money in the loose/aggressive games.

While I don't think these should serve as a guideline, if you want to see the stats for a profitable 4-tabler, my stats for 4 tabling 6-max games at Party Poker are the following:

$25NL: Hands = 30570
VPIP = 26.49%
PFR = 14.30%
BB/100 = 10.58

$100NL: Hands = 55430
VPIP = 22.22%
PFR = 14.10%
BB/100 = 4.41

As you can see, I play LAGGY in these games. As the other poster said, solid postflop play is a must.

[stu-unger]

the funny thing about 6max is that a lot of styles can be winning styles. i have a VPIP of ~21% because i am a supa nit and i have a healthy winrate. i have seen thinking lags around ~30-35% that are winning players also. i think it really comes down to what u r comfortable with and where your strengths lie.

[Jocke_F]

I am averaging 25% VP$IP and 10% PFR but like Tony said this variates quite big depending on the table I am at.

[mason55]

I'm playing 19vpip 10pfr over my last 25k and running at 18PTBB/100.

Many different styles are profitable at NL. Truthfully, at any limit NL, all your money is made postflop. That's why many high limit NL players say that it's really tough to make a mistake preflop.

[Riposte]

I can't seem to get above 21% VPIP. Are you playing more marginal hands up front like AT, KQ, QJ, JT... or are you playing basically anything from the button if there are big stacks limping in?

[Jocke_F]

I limp in with ATo, KQo utg but not QJ,JT, then I often raise a lot of marginal crap when I am first in on the button or in CO like suited one or two gappers, since I often can take it down preflop or after the flop with a continuation bet.

[Lucky]

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Probably around 20/7 if you're not too confident in your postflop play.

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This is right on, especially if you're going to 4 table.

[Malachii]

I've heard that 20/10 is good.