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Old 11-19-2005, 04:28 PM
MrMon MrMon is offline
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Default Re: SB vs. BB - Marginal Hand Vs. Tight BB

Pokerstove is more useful than you might think. I'll provide some numbers later.

He's VERY tight. Like I mentioned above, VP$IP is 7%. PT is marking him TPA after 60 hands.
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:38 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: SB vs. BB - Marginal Hand Vs. Tight BB

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Pokerstove is more useful than you might think. I'll provide some numbers later.

He's VERY tight. Like I mentioned above, VP$IP is 7%. PT is marking him TPA after 60 hands.

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i'm pretty sure you're mis-using the technical tools available to you. pokerstove is about hot/cold equity without regard to postflop play. it can be useful in limit, but only as a crutch for further analysis.

at the same time, 60 hand reads of vp$ip are highly unreliable and the way you are using them is terrible. your opponent could be 20/15 or 12/6, and you won't be able to tell from 60 hands, yet youre making oneway assumptions that will cost you bets.

what is really relevant is how BB will defend an SB open-raise preflop and postflop (specifically on the flop). you can't know this, although the information you have supports a raise.
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: SB vs. BB - Marginal Hand Vs. Tight BB

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Pokerstove is more useful than you might think. I'll provide some numbers later.

He's VERY tight. Like I mentioned above, VP$IP is 7%. PT is marking him TPA after 60 hands.

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I didn't say pokerstove isn't useful, I said it wasn't useful in this situation. The reason is because you're basing your hand's strength on all-in equity but the vast majority of the time you will be folding the flop, which means you won't be fully realizing that equity. For example, stove will be able to credit you with a 29% chance of winning on a 5c7sKc flop, but you aren't going to check-call that flop, are you?

Rob
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