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Old 09-15-2005, 05:52 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Default A3s big blind hand

Party 5/10. SB is 30/10 or so. Others are fairly tight passive.

MP limps, CO and button limp, SB raises, I call in BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], others call.

Flop A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
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Raise or fold here?
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: A3s big blind hand

Can I call? I don't see the point of raising.

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Old 09-15-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: A3s big blind hand

Raise or fold here?

Do you mean "Call or fold here?"

Raising here is pointless as nothing will fold that we want to fold and everything will fold that we want to call if we raise yet may call if we call. I still fold there though.
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:18 AM
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Can I call? I don't see the point of raising.

-DeathDonkey

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Gutshots?

I'll rephrase the question then: Fold, call, or raise?
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: A3s big blind hand

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Can I call? I don't see the point of raising.

-DeathDonkey

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Gutshots?

I'll rephrase the question then: Fold, call, or raise?

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fold, but i think raising is better than calling
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:24 AM
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Can I call? I don't see the point of raising.

-DeathDonkey

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Gutshots?

I'll rephrase the question then: Fold, call, or raise?

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fold, but i think raising is better than calling

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So what you're telling me is noone seems to know what to do here?
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: A3s big blind hand

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Can I call? I don't see the point of raising.

-DeathDonkey

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Gutshots?

I'll rephrase the question then: Fold, call, or raise?

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fold, but i think raising is better than calling

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So what you're telling me is noone seems to know what to do here?

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oh, i'm saying this is a fold. however, if i had to choose between calling and raising i'd rather raise.

you're almost always drawing to you runner runner flush outs, i'd give you ~2 outs on average.

i like raising better than calling though because i want gutshots to fold on the off chance my hand is still good.
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