Min betting and min raising.

[Jeff W]

Would I automatically show a profit if I:

1. Reraised big on every minraise preflop?

2. Put in a big raise anytime someone minbets?

3. Folded to every post flop minraise or min-checkraise?

[Bosox]

probably no, maybe, mostly yes. IMO: 1 and 3 are basically opposites of each other - the underlying theory: Minraises are worthy of fear esp postflop.
But really, i'm not answering anything because you CANT ignore the fact that it's all read- and player- dependant.

this thread seems familiar...
sox

[ajmargarine]

[ QUOTE ]
Would I automatically show a profit if I:

1. Reraised big on every minraise?

2. Put in a big raise anytime someone minbets?

3. Folded to every post flop minraise or min-checkraise?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. No
2. No
3. No

Too generic of a question. And the word automatic is like the word always. But this should be a topic of discussion on this forum...As we are constantly facing miniraises at our limits....and many in this forum recommend folding almost always in the face of this miniraising epidemic, seeing sets and boats and made flushes and ghosts behind every donk's click of the default raise button.

EDIT: oops, thought I was reading my normal small stakes forum, where we are advised to head for the hills when someone miniraises. Carry on.

[Jeff W]

I know nothing is automatic. I do not want to include unnecessary parameters to constrain discussion.

[AZK]

I'm sure you datamine.

Make a list of all the players you encounter at 2/4 3/6 whatever that minraise. Go into PT after about a week of datamining their [censored], and look at every situation where they do it. It means different things for certain players. One regular 3/6, 5/10 player on party always minraises the flop when he hits a set. Makes it very easy to play against him, you get the idea....

[tdomeski]

In general. .

1. No
2. No
3. No

[flawless_victory]

[ QUOTE ]
In general. .

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES

[/ QUOTE ]FYP

[MikeL05]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
In general. .

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES

[/ QUOTE ]FYP

[/ QUOTE ]

My experience is that the answer to all three of those questions are yes, yes, and yes. Minbets are morons who are trying to see if they can take down a $15 pot with a $4 bet. It's often done by people with bottom pair, crap kicker, or perhaps worse.

Minraises are generally done with strong hands, to try to lure just a bit more money out of a person.

Obviously I'm generalizing BIG TIME, but so was the original question. In the long run, I think all three of your points are +EV.

[tdomeski]

Points 1 and 2 are clearly "no". If you look at the original question the poster asks if it would be +EV to ALWAYS put in a raise to min raises pre flop and min bets post flop. Unless you are playing with a bunch of ADD kids eventually someone will catch on.

Also even if playing with a bunch of unknowns I don't think players who min raise their suited connectors and pocket pairs pre flop are going to fold enough times to your pre flop re raise to make it a worthwhile play, unless you are a lot better postflop than them and can make them throw away the best hand a certain percentage of the times you do take it to flop.

Point 3 is debatable and completely player dependent. I've found that people fear the min raise too much, but maybe that's just the case in the games I play. It seems like people min raise more to "see where they are at" than do sweeten a big pot with a big hand.

[THWAP!]

i will answer this in general. as everyone said, stuff's obviously opp dependent.

Preflop minraises tend to be weak. So if you raise big-ish, you should take it down. this is doubly true of LP minraises.

postflop minbets tend to be weak, especially on draw heavy board. this is usually someone either trying to buy the pot cheap or get the draw cheap. one exception is a thinking player who may be trying to induce a raise. another exception is on a late st, like the river, when someone is blockbetting a showdownable hand. but if they're doing this, chances are their blockbet is larger than the minimum. reasonable observation should indicate what your opp is capable of.

postflop minraises. this is different, IMO. It depends on how much strength you have shown. If you have shown strength, say raising prefl and then betting the flop, and you get minraised, i'm usually not surprised to be shown a set. especially if they lead hard into you on the next st.