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Party 750k cripple-me hand
180 left, I have about 21k. Avg. is 17k I'm in no trouble.
3 orbits into a new table, I haven't played a hand. I'm in the cutoff with T8s and open raise 3BB to 4500. the SB (with 17000) minireraises to 7500. I call. Flop comes T64, BB bets 5000 of his remaining 9500. I push. My real question is the preflop action, but the flop push is also up for debate. |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
players in late and blind position get cards too. top pair was second best here to overpair.
reraises, and min raises typically mean something. this was not a $5 buy in. |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
fold preflop?
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
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fold preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Can we fold to the min-raise here? I think that's the best move. Cash game I call it. Tourney, I'm folding because he's representing a hand that has me crushed. |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
I would never in a million years play w/ this hand unless it was a guaranteed limp in.
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I would never in a million years play w/ this hand unless it was a guaranteed limp in. [/ QUOTE ] And I would never in a million years open-limp with this hand. |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
And you will never in a million years be a good player unless you try to steal.
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And you will never in a million years be a good player unless you try to steal. [/ QUOTE ] Was that for Toddy or for me? |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
tough hand.
raising to $4,500 left you with 11xbb. Calling the min raise to $7500, leaves you with 9xbb, which is IMO a nice time to start thinking about a play for the remaining portion of your stack. Table conditions were proper for your preflop raise, and I like it. Givin BB stack of 11x and only min raising causus some concern, unless he's a dope, which in this tourney i doubt. Given how the hand played out, I think I go broke here also. Reads would be nice to have here,,, any? Maybe we should think about this a different way. Prior to flop you had 14x bb...which is not a bad pile. Stealing the blinds would have given you $2,250 more/or 15.5xbb... which is not incrementally/substantionally more or changing the style of poker you can play moving on. That said, I think I just let this go preflop (not raising in the first place), and wait for better cards. Manyatime, have a pissed away a nice portion of my stack by getting cute. |
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Re: Party 750k cripple-me hand
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Maybe we should think about this a different way. Prior to flop you had 14x bb...which is not a bad pile. Stealing the blinds would have given you $2,250 more/or 15.5xbb... which is not incrementally/substantionally more or changing the style of poker you can play moving on. That said, I think I just let this go preflop (not raising in the first place), and wait for better cards. Manyatime, have a pissed away a nice portion of my stack by getting cute. [/ QUOTE ] I think if you haven't played a hand in 3 orbits, this is an excellent opportunity to steal, and you simply have to pick up the blinds once in a while for stack maintenance reasons. 1.5 BB may not be a life changing amount but it's still an increase of 10% in your stack size. |
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