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#1
08-13-2005, 07:32 PM
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Few more tricky situations.
1: Go for the bifecta?
Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, Button calls. Turn: (7.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls. River: (10.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks... Final Pot: 14.00 BB. Should I be folding the flop? Also, how's the river bet? Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: (7.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks. River: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>... 3: Button is a solid TAG. Help! Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Flop: (13.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Turn: (8.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds. River: (10.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 14.00 BB. 4: I never know what to do here. Just give up? Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Button calls. Flop: (5.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. River: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. Final Pot: 7.50 BB. 5: Think I could have gotten the trifecta? Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (8.17 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls. River: (12.17 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. Final Pot: 14.17 BB. 6: This hand pretty well illustrates what it's like to be DERG Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls. Flop: (8.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (6.17 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.17 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.17 BB. 7: Villain is like 50/20/1.2 and a big loser. Yeah? Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.17 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (5.17 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 7.17 BB. 8: Perfect? Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (6.67 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (8.67 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.67 BB. 
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#2
08-13-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
Why not c/r the turn in hand one? Looks like your pumping a spade draw and BB might bet the turn.
On two, I'd check-call to induce the bluff, looks like he missed his diamond draw, get him to take a stab at it. In 3 I think I would've c/red the river 4. I'd check fold the turn 5. Bet the turn, you might get a chance to 3bet, c/res scare the crap outta people 6. I play this one the same. I think you maybe could bet fold the river, but I dont think you could vs. an unknown 7. All day long 8. I play this one the same too.
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#3
08-13-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
1. No. Bet the river, you might get raised but even most As are checkign behind.
2. Yes call the flop, why are you betting the river, is it a bluff or for value? or are you not sure? 3. Do something besides c/c the flop and turn. Ugh. C/r the flop would be my choice. Also, the river is tough, I want to 3bet but I'm debating. 4. That situation kind of sucks, if you think he's drawing checkcalling the river is ok. Otherwise just bet I think. 5. No, don't get fancy, that's a finely played hand. 6. Ugh. Sometimes fold to the river raise. 7. Yes. 8. Yes. 9. Don't post 8 hands at once. Focus on one hand at a time and discuss it in more detail. Make sure to reply to more hands than you post.
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#4
08-13-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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2. Yes call the flop, why are you betting the river, is it a bluff or for value? or are you not sure? [/ QUOTE ] Bluff, although I also thought there was a decent chance I had the best hand.
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#5
08-13-2005, 10:14 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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9. Don't post 8 hands at once. Focus on one hand at a time and discuss it in more detail. Make sure to reply to more hands than you post. [/ QUOTE ] At this point, I'm quite sure I suck too badly to be offering opinions of any value to anyone else.
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#6
08-13-2005, 10:19 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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[ QUOTE ] 2. Yes call the flop, why are you betting the river, is it a bluff or for value? or are you not sure? [/ QUOTE ] Bluff, although I also thought there was a decent chance I had the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] A bluff is bad, he has the nut no pair and he is never ever ever ever folding a pair. Ever.
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#7
08-13-2005, 10:21 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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[ QUOTE ] 9. Don't post 8 hands at once. Focus on one hand at a time and discuss it in more detail. Make sure to reply to more hands than you post. [/ QUOTE ] At this point, I'm quite sure I suck too badly to be offering opinions of any value to anyone else. [/ QUOTE ] Even still, posting bad advice adn then getting called on it is avery good way to learn. More than when you just post hands, when you post advice you subject the way you think about the game to scrutiny. I'm pretty sure if you responded to a hand I posted with bad advice I a) wouldn't take it and b) reply and tell you why I thought it was bad. Neither of those things are -EV
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#8
08-13-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 9. Don't post 8 hands at once. Focus on one hand at a time and discuss it in more detail. Make sure to reply to more hands than you post. [/ QUOTE ] At this point, I'm quite sure I suck too badly to be offering opinions of any value to anyone else. [/ QUOTE ] Even still, posting bad advice adn then getting called on it is avery good way to learn. More than when you just post hands, when you post advice you subject the way you think about the game to scrutiny. I'm pretty sure if you responded to a hand I posted with bad advice I a) wouldn't take it and b) reply and tell you why I thought it was bad. Neither of those things are -EV [/ QUOTE ] I know. I've got 4,000 posts... at least a couple of 'em were strategy related. I'm just demoralized as far as my play goes.
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#9
08-13-2005, 10:33 PM
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Re: Few more tricky situations.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 9. Don't post 8 hands at once. Focus on one hand at a time and discuss it in more detail. Make sure to reply to more hands than you post. [/ QUOTE ] At this point, I'm quite sure I suck too badly to be offering opinions of any value to anyone else. [/ QUOTE ] Even still, posting bad advice adn then getting called on it is avery good way to learn. More than when you just post hands, when you post advice you subject the way you think about the game to scrutiny. I'm pretty sure if you responded to a hand I posted with bad advice I a) wouldn't take it and b) reply and tell you why I thought it was bad. Neither of those things are -EV [/ QUOTE ] I know. I've got 4,000 posts... at least a couple of 'em were strategy related. I'm just demoralized as far as my play goes. [/ QUOTE ] I know, I just figured from your tone they wer all eithe rin OOT or in the philosophy forum arguing with sklansky. I knwo how it goes though, bad runs lead to me reading hands and thinking "I don't know what thef uck to do there.
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