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golfinguy5 · #1 02-18-2005, 10:24 PM

Ianco15 · #2 02-19-2005, 03:18 AM

The thing about tells is that they are very hard to trust. The same tells can mean different things with different people. For example, if one play scratches his nose it could mean he has a strong hand, but if another player scratches his nose it could mean he has a weak hand. Of course there's the possibilty that the player just had an itch on his nose.
The best advice I can give you is to study each player at the table and learn what sort of behavior they have when they show down something weak or something strong. Also, don't put too much trust in tells in general. Don't fold a strong hand into a big pot just because you think you spotted a tell on someone that says he has a monster.

JohnnyHumongous · #3 02-19-2005, 06:02 AM

I love this one: "You found your voice." This guy said it to me at a casino after I had been quiet all night but found myself with two pair, As and Qs on the turn. He asked me something and I responded talkatively... he said "You found your voice. Congrats on your AQ" and laid down. Interesting story, and a memorable one.

tek · #4 02-19-2005, 11:14 AM

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2) When they stare at you to intimidate you they most likely are bluffing

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Here's one--If they stare hard for a second and then lookaway, they have a great hand.

bunky9590 · #5 02-19-2005, 12:01 PM

Concentrate on one person this next session (if you play with them so often) Concentrate on his betting patterns, reaching tells (does he telegraph his actions), does he tuck hs cards under his chips when he intends to play but doesnt otherwise? how does he put his chips out there on bluffs, vs good hands, doesn he go nuts with draws or call down. Get a pocket digital recorder. Make some mental notes, go to the bathroom and speak them into the recorder. End of the night, go home and review your notes. Rinse and repeat with another player next session.

In a couple months you will have detailed notes (not just tells) on every opponent in your game.

Brainwalter · #6 02-19-2005, 08:39 PM

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Up until recently I have only been playing my cards and not the other person and I realize that this is why I am not going out with the profits I would like.

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No offense meant-

but learning to play your cards better will do much more for your results than picking up tells from the other players.

And I'm suprised I'm the first to say it.

Luv2DriveTT · #7 02-20-2005, 09:54 PM

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Up until recently I have only been playing my cards and not the other person and I realize that this is why I am not going out with the profits I would like.

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No offense meant-

but learning to play your cards better will do much more for your results than picking up tells from the other players.

And I'm suprised I'm the first to say it.

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Thats only because you beat me to the punch. 90% of the tells you will see are actually in the form of betting patterns vs the cards on the table. Focus your attention on being a good player and learning how to read the board. Start determining the range of hands your opponent might play, that is a FAR more important tell than to know if someone's hand is trembling what it means.

For the record... my hand always trembles. I have nerve damage. I have won way more than I should have because someone thought my trembling was a tell. Too funny!

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mostsmooth · #8 02-20-2005, 10:11 PM

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Up until recently I have only been playing my cards and not the other person and I realize that this is why I am not going out with the profits I would like.

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No offense meant-

but learning to play your cards better will do much more for your results than picking up tells from the other players.

And I'm suprised I'm the first to say it.

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Thats only because you beat me to the punch. 90% of the tells you will see are actually in the form of betting patterns vs the cards on the table. Focus your attention on being a good player and learning how to read the board. Start determining the range of hands your opponent might play, that is a FAR more important tell than to know if someone's hand is trembling what it means.

For the record... my hand always trembles. I have nerve damage. I have won way more than I should have because someone thought my trembling was a tell. Too funny!

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im assuming you won the money by being called, but conversly, caros book says trmebling hand is a sign of strength
good thing they dont read?

mostsmooth · #9 02-20-2005, 10:13 PM

heres one to remember, when the 3rd suited card comes up on the flop or turn, anybody peeking at their cards almost always has 1 or 0 of that suit.
thats in caros book as well, and ive found it to be solid

Grindin' · #10 02-20-2005, 11:55 PM

The best tell is often the simplest, weak means strong. Strong means weak. It's far more effective to concentrate on betting patterns and especially paying attention to your opponents even when you're not involved in the pot. You have to be careful with tells because more experienced players will know what you're looking for and use it against you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]