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Old 11-03-2005, 02:05 PM
Aaron_ Aaron_ is offline
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Default Middle pair with EP Bettor

Straightforward PFR, limpers are all loose and passive. What do you do in this spot, and what's your plan for the rest of the hand? Many thanks guys

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero? (with 2 left behind you)
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

Fold. This hand is pretty worthless. Your chances of being best right now are pretty nil. You are lucky if you have 5 outs.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

With only one limper in front of me, I probably fold this preflop.

On this flop I'd just call. Change the A to something else and I'd like a raise, but with the A (and a straightforward preflop raiser who raised out of the big blind) it's too likely that you're bloating the pot with a second best hand.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

Getting 12:1, hero doesn't need 5 outs. I call this.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

Fold the flop. The board is draw heavy and you won't be able to fold flush draws nor straight draws with a raise. A 9 puts three to a straight on the board and any heart puts out 3 to a flush. Your outs are extremely tainted here.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

*grunch*

This is a relative large pot (getting 10-1 with possible 2 more bets going in behind), and the PFR has already acted. I probably call and peel one here to see if I make trips, two pair, or snag an OESD on the turn.

Edit : I like Avistons thinking though.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Middle pair with EP Bettor

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Getting 12:1, hero doesn't need 5 outs. I call this.

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If I'm calling, am I raising to maybe buy a 9 for three outs, and maybe even take a free card on the turn?

EDIT: Thanks all for the feedback
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:21 PM
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Getting 12:1, hero doesn't need 5 outs. I call this.

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Me too.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:25 PM
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I dump this one preflop. With 3 folds ahead of me I'm figuring I probably won't get enough multiway action to justify a call.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:32 PM
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I dump this one preflop.

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Me too.
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