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Old 11-18-2005, 05:02 PM
blackaces13 blackaces13 is offline
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Default Good draw, smallish pot...

Party .5/1 (9 handed).

Both opponents in this hand are loose/passive.

PREFLOP: Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the SB.
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

FLOP: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 4 SBs)
<font color="red"> Hero bets </font> , BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

TURN: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3players, 3.5 BBs)
Hero checks,<font color="red"> BB bets </font> , <font color="red"> MP1 raises </font> ,...

6 BBs in the pot (after rake) and its 2 cold to me. What's my play?
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

Well, you have to call.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

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Old 11-18-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

Yeah I guess the implied odds make it a pretty safe call.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

:grunch: You more or less have to call. But why check the turn. Were you trying to check/raise?
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

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Yeah I guess the implied odds make it a pretty safe call.

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Hi brockton with 12 outs the immediate odds make it a pretty safe call.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

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:grunch: You more or less have to call. But why check the turn. Were you trying to check/raise?

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Probably because it's a passive game and he wanted a free card. Given that it's passive, it seemed very unlikely it woudl be two cold back to him. Even now that it is, this isn't that bad of a situation. Nothing wrong with checking here. He's almost certainly behind with one card to come if he bets and does get called.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Good draw, smallish pot...

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:grunch: You more or less have to call. But why check the turn. Were you trying to check/raise?

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Hero has K-high.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:33 PM
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Yeah I guess the implied odds make it a pretty safe call.

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Hi brockton with 12 outs the immediate odds make it a pretty safe call.

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Ok - kinda a newbie [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] question, but 12 outs is 25% with 1 coming and its 2 bets for 6 or 33%. Given the very likely potential that we lose UI, why is it an easy call? I can see it if it is 1 bet called.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:36 PM
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Yeah I guess the implied odds make it a pretty safe call.

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Hi brockton with 12 outs the immediate odds make it a pretty safe call.

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Ok - kinda a newbie [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] question, but 12 outs is 25% with 1 coming and its 2 bets for 6 or 33%. Given the very likely potential that we lose UI, why is it an easy call? I can see it if it is 1 bet called.

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First, I think he has a maximum of 16 outs here, but it could be significantly fewer than that.

Second, he's going to get one more bet from BB.

Third, implied odds when he hits.
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