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Old 08-13-2004, 02:30 AM
cartoonsoldier cartoonsoldier is offline
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Default Hands for the day - Comments/Criticism needed

Another ok day at Poker Stars. After building up my BR from 33$ to around 95 I am down to 83 at the end of last 2 days. Today I ended up down just 20-25BB so its not so bad. Also lost some money on Omaha tables.

Some hands I think I might have played wrong or played good:

Hand 1:
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.20 BB, won by MP1.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to MP1.</font>

MP1 betting into me on the turn put me off, I thought about folding but I had a T high flush draw and an OESD. Good call or should I fold right-away?

Hand 2:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">6 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks,

Flop: (2.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6.20 BB, won by Button.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to Button.</font>

Probably lots of mistakes here- point them out.
Should I fold, pot is not that big ?

Hand 3:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(8 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (14.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (26.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.09 (All-In), <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 34.60 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 32.40 BB, between Hero, UTG+2 and MP2.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 2.20 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font>

Its obvious I won the hand, I had the possible nuts.
For the record, UTG+2 had 77 and had me beat on the flop.
MP2 had AJ.
Did I play this right? I put UTG+2 on 77 on the flop but still capped - good/bad?

Hand 4:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between SB and UTG.</font>

I was hoping for a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the turn, did not get it and I folded.
On the flop - good raise or cold call?
Call the turn?

Hand 5:
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 14.70 BB, between UTG and Hero.</font>

Missed flop cap [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
I put him on a lower set and wanted to trap him.
Criticism welcome.

Hand 6:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (21.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (16.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 20.70 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 20.70 BB, between UTG+1 and MP1.</font>

Good fold? No?

Thanks a lot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
More hands later [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-13-2004, 03:45 PM
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:23 PM
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Hands for the day - Comments/Criticism needed

I'll take a crack at these.

1. Played fine. You had enough draws on the turn to put in a call there.

2. I'd bet this out on the flop. You could get someone holding a 9 to fold there in that small pot. When raised, I'd probably call to see the turn and then check/fold when unimproved.

Heck, depending on my read of the button, I might check/fold the flop too, as you're really not going to ever get enough bets on latter streets to merit chasing the flush.

3. If you put UTG+2 on 77 exactly on the flop, your hand reading skills are far, far more advanced than mine. Anyone at that level with KJ-K9 is probably capping that flop. After that of course the hand played out fine. I love how MP2 stuck around, hit his straight, and had the 3rd best hand. Nice.

4. Not sure I like the flop raise here. I think I'm a little too quick sometimes with the insta-bet/raise on a flop like this, just because I'm the PF raiser. Respect my authority, dammit! Anyway, the reason I'm unsure about this raise is the backdoor nature of your flush. It's the only draw to the nuts that you have, since an 8 on the turn makes a higher straight for JT. I'd also probably see the turn, and release it when I don't improve.

5. Pf fine. I probably would have capped the flop, I don't think you have to worry about AA necessarily since it was not capped PF. If he bets out on the turn again, I probably just call, as I'd start thinking he has a set already, probably TT. The way it played out though I'm thinking maybe he had AQ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

6. PF fine. Man, I don't like that fold at all on the flop. Unless MP1 has exactly QQ, you have good enough odds to see the turn for one more bet.
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Old 08-16-2004, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Hands for the day - Comments/Criticism needed

On hand 1, I realize that he might have a jack or two spades, but for just one bet I would likely call the river. For all we know he had A9 and a BDFD on the flop, and he just hit a 9 on the turn.
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Old 08-16-2004, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Hands for the day - Comments/Criticism needed

It takes a while to respond to 6 hands, and a lot of people refuse to. Post them individually and you won't have to play volleyball everytime the thread drops off page 1.

Hand 1: Icky. Nobody is showing strength on the flop and you almost folded them out, but how often is TT good here? I don't really have a good improvement over your line. Anybody call the river?

Hand 2: This is fine, but I would have led the flop, called a raise, then check-call, check-fold as you did.

Hand 3: Good. (though I don't put him on 77)

Hand 4: I don't like the flop raise. You're out of position and you really only have a gutshot draw - your T's aren't safe outs, and your A's may give someone 2-pair. I think calling this flop is okay, but you got carried away.

Hand 5: Cap the flop and raise the turn. What do you mean by trying to trap him here? If he had a set, you were behind - you can't trap someone when you're behind.

Hand 6: You easily have the odds to call the 3-bet on the flop (23:1 draw with about 33 SB in the pot - assuming he didn't have QQ), but you would definitely be folding the turn.
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Old 08-16-2004, 03:10 PM
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Hand 1:
Did you put him on a flush? Otherwise raise the turn.

Hand 2:
Call the flop, you're not getting odds to your draw on a raise heads-up, and he's not folding to one bet here.

Hand 3:
If you knew he had 77 on the flop, the cap there is wrong, as you're drawing to 4 outs with only 2 opponents.

Hand 4:
If you don't think an 8 or A will win you this hand, the fold is ok, but if that's the case, I'm not sure why you raused and called a 3-bet on the flop. What scared you off? 8T, set?

Hand 5:
Cap the flop, call the turn, cap the river.

Hand 6:
Why raise this flop and fold for one more when you're getting 21:1, you have to see the turn, and probably the river here, unless you put him on QQ. I think he's just as likely to have AA, or KK as QQ here, though.

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Old 08-16-2004, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Hands for the day - Comments/Criticism needed

I think you might get more comments if you posted 1 or 2 hands at a time. It gets a little busy with that many hands at once. Just my thoughts anyway.

On hand 6 why raise the flop if you intend to fold to the 3-bet. Based on the pre-flop action you are probably behind MP1 anyway. With the size of the pot I would either call his flop bet, or be willing to call the 3-bet if I'm going to raise. I would take a look at the turn for 1 SB.
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